| Moth Sailing #205176 03/09/10 03:14 PM 03/09/10 03:14 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, Mike Hill OP
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | Watching these Moth's run around on Sailing Anarchy. Pretty neat boat. Just curious what these boats run. I've heard they ship them from Taiwan in a box. There is a model called a Bladerunner which looks cool. Love to try one sometime.
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#205177 03/09/10 03:35 PM 03/09/10 03:35 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I'm sure someone will give you the exact quote but I've heard about $10,000, plus "extra stuff", like a trailer, box, etc.
I've also heard from a very good cat racer, who tried a Moth at his club, it was a real exercise in -swimming- way too tippy I guess, you're too old for that crap anyway Mike! For a lot less you can get a skateboard, go out in the driveway and get hurt!
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#205178 03/09/10 03:48 PM 03/09/10 03:48 PM |
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA dacarls
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Way more than $10K now: that is the used price. Its a new world out there....no more garage-sale Hobie 16s for $700... If ya still got good knees, abs and some quadriceps, why not try it? I'll let you know after next week.
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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#205179 03/09/10 03:50 PM 03/09/10 03:50 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Building class of moths at our club. There were a couple of demo days and now they have a one-design event on the schedule later this year. A couple of home-builds are on the water now and they're looking to stake out a section of the yard. I feel old.
John Williams
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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#205180 03/09/10 04:05 PM 03/09/10 04:05 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I've heard directly from some cat sailors that have tried them and they say that they're extremely unstable until you get it airborne on the foils - at that point, they're solid as a rock (which makes sense since the foils have so much more beam than the boat itself). They didn't feel like it was a real good choice if lakes are you primary sailing arena.
I heard prices in the upper teens to low 20's...basically new a-cat territory.
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#205181 03/09/10 04:15 PM 03/09/10 04:15 PM | andrewscott
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#205182 03/09/10 04:18 PM 03/09/10 04:18 PM |
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 756 Newport, RI wildtsail
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Posts: 756 Newport, RI | Not going to get into a who's faster arguement but we got around the course A LOT faster... these guys spent lots of time swimming in the 25-30 knot conditions, they also didn't seem as efficient in those conditions. They make "starter" models that are fiberglass that are low to mid teens and I think the bladeriders are 15-16K. The big thing is that all the guys that sail these boats well are technoweenies like Jake.... they have a really good understanding on what is going on underneath them. | | | Re: Moth Sailing
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#205186 03/09/10 06:42 PM 03/09/10 06:42 PM |
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 330 srm
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Posts: 330 | I've heard directly from some cat sailors that have tried them and they say that they're extremely unstable until you get it airborne on the foils - at that point, they're solid as a rock (which makes sense since the foils have so much more beam than the boat itself). I suspect the increase in stability when foiling has a lot to do with the increase and steadying of the aparant wind that results from being on the foils. We see the same thing when windsurfing with modern (planing) light wind equipment. Once the board pops up on plane everything steadies out and the apparant wind direction doesn't vary much even with changes in true windspeed, direction, or course. I agree, sailing one of these boats on a small, shallow, or weedy body of water would probably not be a good idea. As for sailing these boats in 25 to 30 knot conditions, that's at or approaching survival conditions for many small boats and certainly outside of the design conditions for Moths. Definitly extremely cool boats though for sure. sm | | |
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