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Tuning for Ullman Sails #191393
09/20/09 09:04 AM
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I've searched the archives and found some tuning info for the Glaser sails. Does anyone have the settings for the Ullman sails? I have sail number 721, I weigh about 190, and I sail uni most of the time. I'm looking for spreader rake, spreader width, diamond tension, and mast rake. Any suggestions?

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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206608
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I still haven't found anyone with Ullman Sails to compare settings with. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it greatly. I've attempted to contact Ullman and they were going to put someone in touch with me, but it has been six months now.

Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206609
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I've noticed that I originally forgot to mention that these settings are on a Blade.

Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206641
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Not many sailors did alot of tuning with the Ullman rig. It was replaced relatively quickly by other makes.

Try :

Matt McDonald of Falcon Marine
Paul Warren
or
Geert Ruesink

These are the ones who fiddled about the most with the Ulman sails.

Regards,

Wouter

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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: Wouter] #206647
03/25/10 06:16 AM
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From my times competing against Paul on the Blade he much preferred using his Ullman whilst solo and Landenberger when two up. His Ullman main was probably manufactured in 2006. I have been racing really closely to Paul and a major difference to his speed came as much from the correct mast rotation as did from the downhaul, mainsheet tension so I would bare that in mind whilst adjusting your rig.
As for his exact settings I'm not sure but he'll let us know if he can remember them. He has a new Falcon occupying his mind at present.


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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: Mark P] #206648
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Thanks for your replies guys. I've spoken with Matt and he has been more than helpful in getting my boat the way that I want it. I think that it's great that you can actually get him, the builder, on the phone if need be. That's much better than I've experienced in the past with other companies. I'd like to compare notes with Paul though, as I'll be racing uni most of the time. Any info you could pass on from him would be great. We have Spring Fever coming up next week in Hartwell and I plan to get with Jody and Joanna to compare sails and set-ups.

Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206650
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Come on down to Gulfport if you get the chance. There will be lots of folks you can compare notes with.


Pete Pollard
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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: pgp] #206654
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Matt mentioned coming down on the 9th. I'm gonna have to see if I can make that work. Any chance in talking some of you into coming up for Spring Fever next weekend? I think we have 3 f16's preregistered. I would deffinately like to see more.

Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206657
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Spring fever is too cold for me. And I'll be busy getting ready for Gulfport.

Keep in mind, to race in the Nationals requires certification and class membership; total of $75.

You're welcome to come down, we hope to see you.


Pete Pollard
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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: pgp] #206664
03/25/10 09:20 AM
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Can I take care of all that once I get there?

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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206665
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Sure. Certification takes time so the earlier you arrive the better.

Let me know when you plan on arriving.


Pete Pollard
Blade 702

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Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: bulldogbarber] #206707
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Originally Posted by bulldogbarber
I'd like to compare notes with Paul though, as I'll be racing uni most of the time.


As Mark says, I used the Ullman for single handing, as the newer Landy that I bought had a deliberately full cut for 2-up sailing, and I always found the Ullman very quick when 1-up.

I'm afraid my tuning isn't particularly scientific. Upwind: I adjust the mast rotation so that the back of the sail and the back of the mast form a nice smooth curve, and then generally leave it alone. I find that the big one to get right is the downhaul. I generally try to go upwind by making very small steering movements, rather than by playing the mainsheet (more through laziness than any belief that it's quicker). If you find yourself luffing significantly to get the hull down in the gusts, it's time for more downhaul. On a number of occasions I've found more speed by using more download than I thought I needed, footing off a bit and going for boat speed. I spent a lot of time racing the Stealths, and never out pointed them, but often got them on VMG by going lower and faster.

Downwind: again, I do it more on the steering than the sheeting. Cleat the main, quite loosely when light, hard when it's blowing, and then sail to the kite. Don't be afraid to go really high in the light stuff to get some boat speed.

Paul

Re: Tuning for Ullman Sails [Re: pdwarren] #206847
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Paul,

Do you happen to know your spreader rake and your mast rake , using the trap wire method?


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