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Re: EURO CAT [Re: HJS] #210400
05/06/10 02:36 PM
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Congrats to the winners, B2B, and all of the F16s for a good showing!!!!!





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Re: Eurocat [Re: Mark Schneider] #210401
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
So... in an SCHRS Regatta you could have 6 maybe 7 possible ratings (depending on boat and configuration)on the course with F16, Spitfires and Vipers (single and double handed) that could all be called F16 boats.

Would it not be better to say that what the fleet is about is level rated racing and just consider the F16 box rule to set the ceiling of performance?

Sure beats arguing over what the class boat weight should be and gets sailors to align with the larger notion of racing 16 foot boats within the defined F16 Box.

The marketing and the reality are a bit at odds on the race course. The current reality looks more like your typical struggle for one design market share dominance then Formula Racing.


Let's not take anything away from the good showing and perhaps discuss the merits or lack there of SCHRS, Texel, & Portsmouth relative to the F16 (Double & Uni) on another thread? Maybe even the stale thread at http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubb...p;Words=schrs&Search=true#Post206977


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Re: All girl team : mission accomplished ! [Re: HJS] #210524
05/08/10 11:34 AM
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Bundy,

Congratulations to you and Carolijn on your finishes at Carnac. Very good showing.

You know the Euro personalities better than I do, but is it a good idea to chastise the class for poor attendance? In the US where there is arguably a relatively large number of F16's almost all of them sail in their local pond only, and there are just a few who travel to actualy try and race to promote the "class". The F16 is definitely a racing platform, but it is attracting a wide variety of racers, and those who are serious racers are very few in numbers, and an event like Carnac is an intimidating place for the casual racer.

A additional hinderance to the F16 class growth with the serious racer, is the identity crises that is being driven by our own class. Handicap numbers are fine to provide a casual racing scene for the mix and match boats. If I am going to a large event I would hope to sail F16, and spending a lot on an event like Carnac to find everyone signing up for what ever "handicap" advantage they can get for themselves would be a bit of a dissapointment.

The successful classes grew in the past on branding their class. F18 was F18 no matter the boat. The H16 class is not out with multiple ratings although by rights it is possible.

This class did not exist a few years ago. Then it became a paper class, and now there are real teams and events, the class is recognized virtualy everywhere, even in places where there are no boats yet. Now, thanks to you guys some higher level promotion happening.

The continued growth of the F16 class can only help everyone, if we band together to make sure that is what is promoted.

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