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Favorite trapeze harness #212195
05/28/10 07:51 PM
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Now that I've purchased a Capricorn F18, which will arrive in a couple of weeks time, I need to acquire the gear to go with it. There are a LOT of different trapeze harnesses out there, so I'd like to thin out the list by asking everyone what they've tried and liked the best. At the moment, I'm strongly considering a Ronstan CL10 or CL11. If there's a better choice, or I'm looking at the wrong kind of harness entirely - please let me know!

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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: old salt] #212197
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I like the
Worrell 1000 by aquata.
ZHIK also makes a great harness I'd use the ZHIK if my trap system worked with it. It's a little more Expensive but well worth it.


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: F-18 5150] #212199
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For marks I like the Goodall, For distance I like the Aquata Worrell 1000.


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: F-18 5150] #212201
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Both my wife and I use the Magic Marine Revolution harness. Its comfortable but probably heavier than a lot of the others available. The reason I got it was the Yoke for a neck strap so it cant slide off the shoulder or spread the weight unevenly, the buckle covers so that the buckles can't be unhooked accidentally, the leg strap padding and the hard back which seems to let me stay straighter without loading up my back. I adjusted it to fit me when I got it and just slide in and out of it when I use it. They're not listed at Catsailor on line store
theres a good photo of it at
http://www.sailingproshop.com/Products/Magic-Marine-Revolution-Trapeze-Harness__MM086500.aspx
Enjoy your boat


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: JeffS] #212207
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I have owned magic marine, gill, zhik, custom made jobs, and used hobie.

The Zhik is head and shoulders above the rest.

http://www.zhik.com/ProductDetails.aspx?category=1&element=62&PKID=3414&CategoryID=


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: Dazz] #212226
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Lots of folks like the Aquata stuff. We have all their harness right here on this site. Here is the Worrell
https://store.catsailor.com/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=16546&idcategory=273
Also, we carry the Ronstan, Zhik, Murray, Gill, etc.
Good way to find them is go to
www.OnLineMarineStore.com and click on
Browse by Brand

Good luck with the new boat.
Rick


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: old salt] #212246
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Old salt, not sure if you are planning to get into racing the Capricorn, but just want to let you know that the 2010 F18 North Americans are on in Wisconsin in August. The latest boat to sign up is also from Nova Scotia. Details at http://crawsailing.net/Racine2010. 36 F18s signed up so far for their North American Championship, and a total of 53 boats over four classes for the combined Racine Catamaran Champs. It's going to be epic!

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: ] #212250
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i always use my Dakine Nitrous shorts(with built in harness) unless i'm going long distance then i use my Worrell 1000. nothing beats the convenience on the Nitrous shorts. love it.

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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #212266
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The Worrell 1000 has been mentioned 3 times so far, the Zhik twice. I'll take a second look at these!

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: old salt] #212280
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Had lots of different harnesses and the best ones i have ever used is custom made ones or older ones.

Used my mum's 20 year old one for ages which was very nice, even nicer is the one i made with my friend at his sail loft.

I find all the ones with adjustment and buckles just get in the way and catch and don't ussally ever seem to fit me in any nice way.

Zhik one looks the best of the production one. The worrell one looks like it has way to much stuff hanging of it.

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: NacraKid] #212283
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The Worrell is a distance racing harness, I wouldn't consider it unless you want a harness strictly for that or recreational sailing. I can't imagine using it for buoys, it definitely restricts your movement a bit.
We use the Ronstan CL11 Racing Harness for buoys and have been very happy with it. The torso support works really well once you figure it out without putting any stress on your shoulder straps.

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: old salt] #212289
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I use a Dakine but bucket style harness for distance racing - the most comfortable harness I've ever worn. I used to use a Magic Marine Equipe with foam pads stuck inside to relieve pressure on the hips - that was pretty good but our ground crew lost it last year.

For round the cans I use a magic marine but bucket - not amazingly comfortable - but not too bad and the races don't last too long

The Zhik looks good - but it's hard to space the cleats for chicken lines on this design - much easier with the spreader bar style.

Chris.


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: Dazz] #212302
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Originally Posted by Dazz
The Zhik is head and shoulders above the rest.


I like the simplicity of the Zhik, but does the unsecured hook not cause problems?

Thanks,
Kai


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Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: Baltic] #212303
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IMHO the Zhik harness looks great for helming but not for crewing because it doesn't have a bar where you can fit cleats for the chickenwire.
So far my favorite is the Hobie Convertible harness, lots of back-support and very comfortable.
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I use a Dakine XT Seat windsurfing harness. It's got great lower back support, adjustability and mobility.

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Thanks for the info, and I do think I'll get into racing someday, but I think I'll start off this season by just learning to sail the boat well without capsizing or falling off. That and re-learning rules, tactics etc. As much as I love sailboat racing, and I was pretty good at the time, that was 25 years and 80 pounds ago. Once I get used to the boat, then I can start racking up DNF's and last place finishes here in Canada before I start to worry about my international record smile. I see the boat from NS is Chris Prentice. He is on a road trip through the States this week, one stop he is making is to pick up my boat from Olli Jason, who is also entered. Pretty tough competition for a relatvely new sailor!

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: old salt] #212322
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Come to Racine - you won't regret it. Great venue, but beyond that you'll be among a friendly fleet that will get you a season's worth of sailing in a week. There will be lots of advice available for free. There just isn't a substitute for making your class nationals each year. Pack up the boat and get there.


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I have had a bunch of harnesses and I got the Zhik because I was told it was the only harness I could get that would work both on distance and buoy racing. I was told the truth. I use mine for Tybees, a-cat'ing, N20 buoys, etc. Works great, though it can be little uncomfortable standing up in it. One big plus - it's very easy to take on and off with the velcro.

The Zhik does have a spreader bar buried inside the cloth. Several Tybee guys have fit cleats to them, and I'm sure Mike Krantz could tell you how to do it.

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Also, should have talked about the lack of a positive lock. I don't think you need one of these or even really want one. I've had no problems staying on the hook, even after getting my feet washed off the boat and being dragged underwater at 15 knots.

Re: Favorite trapeze harness [Re: Lost in Translation] #212346
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Originally Posted by Lost in Translation
Also, should have talked about the lack of a positive lock. I don't think you need one of these or even really want one. I've had no problems staying on the hook, even after getting my feet washed off the boat and being dragged underwater at 15 knots.


I ,situationally, disagree with this. The "keeper" is absolutely necessary on some trap set-ups and beneficial on some others. The ring won't fall out while your trapping or getting dragged underwater(What's up with that, Trey?Get your crew in line)it'll come off when sitting on deck,preparing to go out or transitioning. My marks harness doesn't have one, my distance harness does. I've been dropped off the side with my marks harness because of that.Not as big a deal on a w/l ,but certainly a big deal offshore.
To each his own.


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