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Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: pgp] #209289
04/22/10 06:49 PM
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Upwind mode: spanner pointing at tyhe shroud (roughly)

[Linked Image]

Note:
Pink rope is lead out the shrouds to allow fine tune from the wire.

Orange rope is cleated, thus holding the other end of the fine tune pink close to the tramp.
Pink rope with red "blob" on it is slack (this now runs up to a turning blick on the boom and then back aft so it can be pulled from the bacl of the boat.

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Pull the "blob" and the orange rope incleats from the plate and allows the mast to swing free (not shown) but you can see the slack

When you pull the spi downhaul (red rope to the left) the system automatically re-tensions as the orange rope re-cleats and the rotation goes back to the same place....


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Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Timbo] #209299
04/22/10 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Karl, with your system, have you ever accidently -tripped- the halyard [and tack line] loose with your feet, during a gybe?


Disclaimer- I haven't sailed it singlehanded yet. (except a 1/2 mile up the beach, doesn't count, I know)

BUT, I may be stick boy, but I'm not exactly short, and Dan's no small fry either, so with both of swinging our limbs about we didn't have any issues. Like I said, the halyard goes through a strap on the front beam that keeps it pretty tight to the tramp, and its really only exposed maybe ~18" behind the front beam before it dives back under the tramp, so there isn't much to get caught on.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Karl_Brogger] #209318
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Boy, thats a nice clean system you have there Scooby!

*double face palm*


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Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Karl_Brogger] #210321
05/05/10 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Disclaimer- I haven't sailed it singlehanded yet. (except a 1/2 mile up the beach, doesn't count, I know)

... Like I said, the halyard goes through a strap on the front beam that keeps it pretty tight to the tramp, and its really only exposed maybe ~18" behind the front beam before it dives back under the tramp, so there isn't much to get caught on.

Karl, have you had any chance to sail solo yet? I'm curious... having the cleat on the mast and only 18" of line on the tramp, does that mean that you need to move yourself a fair distance forward from the helm both to raise and snuff the chute? With my current system, imperfect though it is in many ways, at least I have the hoist/retrieval line fairly easily accessible from the helming position.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: ] #210763
05/11/10 08:23 PM
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Finally got to sail the boat singlehanded.

You don't really have to move that far forward, (I've also got a pretty long reach). No more so than I had to on the FXone with the cleat on the front beam. I hoise/retrieve from my knees, and I'm about in the middle (front to back), and just off of center (side to side). With out the 2:1 on the tack, it does take more effort, but nothing severe, it does take some strength though. Hoisting is pretty much effortless though, and the spinnaker goes up very quickly.

Even though there isn't much exposed on the tramp, there is plenty of slack underneath, that slack is taken up by rings, and bungees. So its not like its tight to the tramp, and tkaes effort to get a grip on it.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Karl_Brogger] #210766
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Thanks. Does the spin go up quickly because of the separate tack line instead of a single line system? Did you have the latter on the FXone?

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: ] #210785
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I had a combo line on the FXone. I think the halyard is easier just because the tack is already out. Kinda gets the spinnaker on deck and ready. Plus you aren't pulling any extra line as its just 1:1 going up.

I don't think I did a single hoist on this boat before swapping it over.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Karl_Brogger] #210855
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I'll have to take a look at you setup at Ripley. Where did you sail your boat uni?


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Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: TEH] #210885
05/12/10 09:19 PM
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Omaha, doing more coaching with Robbie. I only made it on the water, two of the four days though. Just too damn windy/cold for my tastes. So you didn't miss much on the water time.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: ] #212056
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Originally Posted by MarkMT
I'm getting close to ordering a replacement for my '05 Blade. I'm curious whether there are any new tricks other singlehanded sailors are using in the way their boats are set up to make life easier. e.g. any differences in spinnaker halyard/snuffer/tackline management compared with 2-up sailing? Rotator, downhaul, rudder, daggerboard management?


I don't know if it was said already in this posting:
Take a shockcord with a hook, tie it at the center of the rear cross beam and hook it somewhere where you can easily reach it. If you want to heave to, take the hook and put it on one tiller. Now you can heave to and use your both hands all the time. I got this tip from Mary, it is one of the best one ever posted here.

Cheers,

Klaus

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Smiths_Cat] #212074
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Nice. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Singlehanded boat setup [Re: Smiths_Cat] #212310
05/31/10 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Smiths_Cat
I don't know if it was said already in this posting:
Take a shockcord with a hook, tie it at the center of the rear cross beam and hook it somewhere where you can easily reach it. If you want to heave to, take the hook and put it on one tiller. Now you can heave to and use your both hands all the time. I got this tip from Mary, it is one of the best one ever posted here.

Cheers,

Klaus


Awesome tip! Used this today when I capsized really close to and upwind of a jetty. Made getting the boat sorted out after righting real easy.

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