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#213072 06/08/10 10:28 AM 06/08/10 10:28 AM |
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Posts: 51 Richmond, Va | Thank you to all that have responded to this question. I have learned quite a bit and I agree the 14 in those conditions was a very interesting and informative ride, I learned quite a bit on Sunday. Earlier in the day I had stuffed the bows as far as I think I could with out pitching. When I was finally able to let the mainsheet out, water was coming over the tramp haha. Once again thank you all and everything that has been said makes complete sense.
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[Re: Jake]
#213083 06/08/10 11:18 AM 06/08/10 11:18 AM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | Andrew - make sure to have a stopper knot on your traveler line so you're not relying on the plastic stops on the beam...the stopper knot will hit the cleat fairlead and stop the traveler. The stoppers don't really take much of a joke. Thanks Jake. i have corrected that by simply connecting the traveler and main sheet so it can't go full travel. but great idea for anyone who doesn't connect their lines. ps mystere's have no plastic stoppers.. just the beam bolt heads, perfect for shearing! | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
[Re: Mike Fahle]
#213092 06/08/10 11:42 AM 06/08/10 11:42 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The best way to learn this is to go out in conditions that are a little windier than you are comfortable with and practice the maneuver until it IS comfortable. You want to "stretch" your comfort envelope a little at a time so that each step is manageable. You can climb a tall, steep mountain with many small steps, grasshopper.
This is a good technique for anyone - determine your weaknesses and work on them in the conditions where they start to show up. Get Rick White's book and read it also. Yes, it has been a while since it was written but most of the info about technique stays the same.
Last note: This is another reason why racing is so valuable to learning quickly - it encourages you to go out in conditions that you might otherwise not sail in and accumulates lots of experience and advice in a friendly gathering for your quick ascent up that mountain of a learning curve! It's impossible to determine the exact position of "the limit" unless you exceed it on occasion.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
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Posts: 571 Hamburg | When I was finally able to let the mainsheet out, water was coming over the tramp haha. Don't cleat the main unless your spi is up or you are gybing. I center the traveller during gybes only with spi. If you keep your speed, you can push the main just by grabbing in the sheet between the blocks. YOur sail and battens will say thank you. Cheers, Klaus | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | When I was finally able to let the mainsheet out, water was coming over the tramp haha. Don't cleat the main unless your spi is up or you are gybing. I center the traveller during gybes only with spi. If you keep your speed, you can push the main just by grabbing in the sheet between the blocks. YOur sail and battens will say thank you. Cheers, Klaus Oooo...agreed - spinnaker sailing is different in this regard...you do want the main mostly centered. I should have made that distinction.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
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#213102 06/08/10 12:24 PM 06/08/10 12:24 PM |
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Posts: 606 Maryland | This is another reason why racing is so valuable to learning quickly - it encourages you to go out in conditions that you might otherwise not sail in and accumulates lots of experience and advice in a friendly gathering for your quick ascent up that mountain of a learning curve! Amen
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[Re: Mike Fahle]
#213234 06/09/10 09:37 AM 06/09/10 09:37 AM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | not sure what you mean "attach them to the inside of the ends of the traveler", but cool idea to make bumpers.
do you mean on the traveler car? if so why make holes for the bolts? If not, i am not sure where you are suggesting to attach them...
as i said above, not an issue for me anymore since i have a knot as well (the knot is what attaches to my main) | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
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#213255 06/09/10 11:32 AM 06/09/10 11:32 AM | andrewscott
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#213419 06/10/10 10:51 AM 06/10/10 10:51 AM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | Much safer to put a stopper knot in the traveller rope. vs. using a knot in conjunction with the main? or using the carpet method mentioned? | | | Re: Gybing in high wind
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#213538 06/11/10 12:09 PM 06/11/10 12:09 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Much safer to put a stopper knot in the traveller rope. vs. using a knot in conjunction with the main? or using the carpet method mentioned? Just use the knot. The traveller car is not made for side impacts with anything; even if covered with carpet
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#213553 06/11/10 03:05 PM 06/11/10 03:05 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I know that you should alert other boats in the area of your intended gybe.
The proper terminology to be used in the situation you describe is:
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