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Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: mbounds] #214014
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This is what you need - used for ply boats - great product.
http://www.biasboating.com.au/p-768-international-everdure.aspx

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Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #214015
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by andrewscott
(are those called dove tails or something)


I think what you're talking about is the just a profile so the panel has a spot to go. Its all done with a machine, so zero skill involved. Basically I made doors and mitred and glued them together to make up the "box" part.

Dovetails are a mechanical joint heralding from the days when you had to cut off Bessie's hooves to make glue. Glue from way back when sucks, and when the glue fails you still have a joint that'll hold tight. When done correctly, glue isn't really all that neccessary. The flip side is that glue has gotten so good that dovetails should be obsolete, but the process has gotten so cheap that its more popular than ever.

The joint in the corner of these draweres are dovetailed:

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I thought the corners in this picture looked like you had cut some type of joint groves that it would slide into and lock together
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Re: Weather proofing a wood box? [Re: orphan] #214033
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I agree, thats a really nice looking box, it would be a shame to cover it up. Bedliner will peel off wood, probably very quickly, within a season. The only finished made for wood will stick to wood long term due to the way wood swells and shrinks with the changes in the surrounding air/moisture content.

http://www.woodworkerssource.com/wood_movement.php

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: ] #214034
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I thought the corners in this picture looked like you had cut some type of joint groves that it would slide into and lock together


Thats a pretty common technique, he used a router to mill those parts and it allows for the frame to float in the frame to help compensate for wood movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_and_panel

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: bvining] #214065
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Would I be correct in calling that joint a "mortise & tenon" just trying to remember the Norm and the New Yankee Workshop.


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Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: zander] #214084
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Originally Posted by zander
Would I be correct in calling that joint a "mortise & tenon" just trying to remember the Norm and the New Yankee Workshop.


It's a type of mortise and tenon joint, but it's a specialized one for rail and stile joints. Like Karl said, it's done on a purpose built machine and there's really not much skill involved.

I can't believe nobody's commented on the pocket screws holding it together from the inside. You can see the holes for them on the underside of the lids. That's a slick trick for no visible fasteners on the outside.

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: mbounds] #214088
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Jesus Karl don't f&*@ up your finger again building a cat box.

It was barely hanging on by a thread when I saw it down in Florida :P

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #214090
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Karl:

Haven't read this whole thread, and if not suggested why not use some silicon enamel the stuff they use for topside paint on wooden boats?

Stuff is not cheap and kind of nasty to work with. We used it on some outdoor wooden furniture and still looks good as it did when we painted it a few years back.

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: Nimrod] #214100
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I should trade an aluminum one for that thing, I want to buried is something that nice. smile


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Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: zander] #214111
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it's big enough...


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Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #214126
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Originally Posted by Undecided
Jesus Karl don't f&*@ up your finger again building a cat box.

It was barely hanging on by a thread when I saw it down in Florida :P


That was caused from me having my head way, way up my butt. I was scrambling to get a big job delivered so I could go to Florida. Its all healed up, and semi normal again.

I still haven't coated it with anything yet. Had to work today and yesterday (*GASP*), gotta go sailing tomorrow. Being I've got next to nothing going on next week, I should have it wrapped up by then.

I haven't had any bright ideas on what to do for a latch yet either.

Re: How about a polymer truck bed coating? [Re: mbounds] #214127
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Originally Posted by mbounds
I can't believe nobody's commented on the pocket screws holding it together from the inside. You can see the holes for them on the underside of the lids. That's a slick trick for no visible fasteners on the outside.


Yeah, but they're taboo for anything that is visible. You couldn't sell something with those being seen.

I use the **** outta pocket screws when I can. I wouldn't use them as much as I do if it weren't for a Castle Machine.

http://www.castleusa.com/pocket_joinery.html#TSM-21


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This is taking longer than I'd like. [Re: Karl_Brogger] #214371
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Almost there. Second coat of Varnish is on, a few more to go, then I can flip the box and lids over and coat all crap I can't get at right now.

I've skipped the idea of doing the inside of the box with the bedliner stuff. I was kinda thinking I'd do the bottom side of the box, and the inside of the lids with it, but I don't really think that is neccessary, and the $100 I spent on the bedliner stuff I could buy some 90* aluminum pieces to protect the bottom edge, and to hold it up from the deck of the trailer.

Watching varnish dry is alot like watching paint dry.

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Re: This is taking longer than I'd like. [Re: Karl_Brogger] #214382
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Watching varnish dry is alot like watching paint dry.



yeah, but in an enclosed area, it's much "nicer" to watch varnish.. smile


Jay

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