Not to take anything away from the Waves, but it's interesting that out of 18 total races (3 wave sailors X 6 races each) only two races had finishes worse than a 3rd. Those guys were sailing well, but they weren't unbeatable. How do we go about submitting these results to the Portsmouth rating gods? I rarely get to race against Waves and Getaways, but this always seems to be the outcome.

Any photos? Sorry I had to miss it.

Even though all of those races where in shifty, spotty wind...the kind you would not normally use for data, I would support sending the results just to level the field, so to speak.

This is really perhaps another nail in the coffin of the PHRF system.

Consider:

1. On the Waves, we were able to tack on the shifts and sail to the pressure, whereby the rest of the bigger cats in our fleet (mainly Hobie 16) have a hard time tacking at all, and have a hopeless situation in very light wind. I don't know how many times I simply sailed around one stuck in irons.

2. The three Wave sailers present are all national level sailors.

3. Except for Mark Williams, none of the other boats in our fleet came close to getting decent starts in most of the races.

4. The Wave DPN is most likely derived from data taken at small local races were someone that really sucked sailed a Wave and finished very poorely.

I agree that the number doesn't fully represent the potential outcome. It would be interesting to score the same races using SCHRS. I expect the results would still stand.

Ratings comparison:

Hobie 16 DPN = 76 SCHRS = 1.145 converted to DPN = 79.3
Hobie 18 DPN = 71.4 SCHRS = 1.050 converted to DPN = 73.4
Wave DPN = 92.1 SCHRS = 1.480 converted to DPN = 102.5

I'm just trying to point out that if you leave out the DNF, the only time a Wave didn't finish 1,2,3 was in one race where it was 4th.

Zander was photog again - I'm sure he'll have something posted soonish.

Ha, I sailed a Wave after the Duck Cup this year and it was so ugly I earned a new nickname.

Outback Cup 2010 gallery

Sorry for the shameless plug.

The Wave guys did sail well and I don't want to take anything away from them.... but it is unusual that you were consistently 1,2,3 in just about every race... when the wind conditions were very inconsistent. In that really light stuff, you were favored just with the fact that no one was moving well and couldn't create any separation for the numbers to equalize the times...

I will say this about the numbers.. I sail a F18(62.4) and a H16(76)(13.6 difference) and there is less disparity between these two Portsmouth #s than the separation of H16 and Wave(92.1)(16 difference)... I've got to say there should be a bigger separation between the F18 and H16 than with the H16 and Wave.