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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Mark Schneider] #218918
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Eric Witte is coordinating with Roton Point. I am aware that Roton Point's event occurs the same weekend as WRSC's Carl Miller and is "usually" a 2 day regatta. Eric knows the parameters to host the USF16 Nationals.

Thanks for the advice on ARW. I would never consider running on the same course as monos (LOL), even the poor J105 step-children. I envision more of an event within an event. Beachcats would be stationed at Sandy Point, carry their own course, and RC. 2013 is far away and plenty of time see if it is possible, to make friends, and work out the logistics (school bus, landing or hovercraft).



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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: pgp] #218926
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Hi Kris,

Just wanted you to know that we support what ever the class would like to do. With out a doubt, it is always nice when an event is in your back yard, but it can’t always be that way.

I think one of key things that are necessary to be a success the class is already on….that is to plan ahead! Some of the other things that make a great event are to make sure a regatta is safe and offers a good PRO and organization on the water for quality racing.

We are very much in favor of having big events and in the future it is our hopes to have the 16s and the 18s working more together. There are some cross over sailors for sure but the reality is it makes sense to have big events for everyone from the sailors to the spectators and especially the organizers.

With regards to the manufacturers, we are trying hard to lead the charge to have the different manufacturers for both the F18’s and F16s support the events and the classes.

With regards to Red Gear Racing. We continue to strive to raise the bar for all sailors and we will continue to train all sailors on all boats.

You will see a common theme in what we do….from coaching with Red Gear Racing, to selling the AHPC boats with Fun in the Sun and our dealers, to trying to reach our youth sailors with the subsidized VIPER Club boats, our mission is to grow and improve the sport of sailing! We will make every effort to be at the class events no matter where they are!

I would appreciate it if you can post this for me.


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: pgp] #218927
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Originally Posted by pgp
I see how ur! smirk You gonna do Juana's?


No Juana's this year ... falls on a home UCF football game. I'll see you at Wildcat ... in fact I just joined the club there so I store my boat with mast-up access.

T.


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: tback] #218931
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Just as a point of interest it would be good to talk with the F18 officers for future events to do whatever coordination is possible, either to prevent conflicting dates or to even plan for dates that could compliment one another.

Realistically if one event could be on the tail of the other separated by a day and in the same region that would be awesome. Maybe not always possible, but it would be slick being able to take off from one event straight to the other. Then again I'm just being selfish, and I'm trying to save myself a few days of driving.


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Karl_Brogger] #218934
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Already ahead of you on that one. Despite everyone's best efforts, plans can run amuck.

2012 F-18 Worlds (no F18 North Americans) will be in California, so no complimentary F16 Nationals as I see it for 2012. Just need to avoid date conflict.


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Kris Hathaway] #218955
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Yes, avoiding a conflicting date would be paramount for 2012. Given the choice I wouldn't skip Worlds for Nationals.


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Karl_Brogger] #218980
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Yes, avoiding a conflicting date would be paramount for 2012. Given the choice I wouldn't skip Worlds for Nationals.


Dude, if you're scared just say you're scared :-)


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: David Ingram] #218982
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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: David Ingram] #219057
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Yes, avoiding a conflicting date would be paramount for 2012. Given the choice I wouldn't skip Worlds for Nationals.


Dude, if you're scared just say you're scared :-)


I don't get it.....


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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Kris Hathaway] #219059
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Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway
Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway
Floor is still open for discussion. I believe that there is a consensus for alternating "North" & "South" years. There is one additional consideration for deliberation that may be introduced next week and then I suspect there will call for motions.

Remember, actual voting will be conducted via the USF16 Google e-mail list.


OK...Here is an additional variable that I wish to add for the members to consider:

Roton Point hosting the 2011 USF16 Nationals during the same dates currently scheduled for WRSC.

Here are my thoughts:
- Roton Point is anxious to host the USF16 Nationals and help promote F16s in New England. By September, 2011, there should be a greater F16 presence in NE and the momentum of having the USF16 Nationals will only add to it! The proposed dates coincide with their annual event. They are rehearsed with supporting multihull events.

- Dovetails well with the F18 Nationals, placing dual teams and manufacturers much closerer to both venues, approx 4 hours driving distance.

- WRSC will host the 2013 USF16 Nationals (North year), maybe even coordinating as part of Annapolis Race Week (Labor Day Weekend) and leverage the real time footage, protest committee (as though we need one), festivities, and swag.

- StABYC members have voiced their desire to host the 2012 USF16 Nationals (South Year).

Essentially, we will have 2011, 2012, & 2013 on the books!!!



Sorry Kris, I didn't read this. I am all for this! 4 hrs would be F-ing awesome compared to ~12 hrs and the next day being fueled entirely by Red Bull and methamphetamine, (not a good combo btw, make's ya kinda twitchy).

BTW- Is there supposed to be a mass email sent out to vote back on? I really don't feel like setting up a google account. I need another online ID like I need a 2nd assho1e.

(edit)- nevermind, went back and read the thread on the class forum where you already answered that for me.

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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: Karl_Brogger] #220189
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Just wish to assure the USF16 members that the thread is not dead. We are making sure that one of the proposals is viable before accepting/making motions for a vote. Again, a notice will be posted here but the actual motions and voting will be held via the USF16 Google Group e-mail list.



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Re: 2012 Nationals [Re: pgp] #220893
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Motion has been made regarding the 2011 Nationals. If you are a USF16 member and did not get an e-mail from USF16Association@googlegroups.com or wish to join the USF16 please contact us at USF16@me.com

Thanks


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