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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Darryn] #217790
08/18/10 05:27 PM
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I am so tempted. just to test this "spirit of the class" bull##it rule I had thrown at me. I guess I can give certain individuals something to ban or outlaw. I do have some very interesting ideas and yet again it will test the waters. Not many Mozzies up here in cairns so I can secretly invent new ways in private. Is the big stick issue dead??? Hope so. who has a copy of the building regulations? have they been updated?? any new design changes I should be aware of??
Cheers. AJ

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Re: New Centreboards [Re: DickenCider 1777] #217799
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I reckon a Mozzie would fit in alright at Cairns yacht club. I had a look at there site, seems to be some cat sailing going on at Ellis beach. I raced my Mozzie in Townsville, mostly dinghys there back then.

I have not heard of the spirit of the class rule. I cant place where that is defined either. Personally I find the class to be progressive, compared to Lasers and Flying Fifteens which I now race too, the Mozzy Associations are open to new ideas and practical, sensible proposals which wont obsolete the entire fleet overnight are voted in at AGM's.

I just copied and pasted this out of the constitution
"Promote the development of the Mosquito class catamaran and control the building rules and
class restrictions to ensure consistency" Nothing about spirit their.


You could always go this path with your new ideas.
"A member may propose an alteration to the plans, specifications and/or restrictions by submitting
a notice of motion detailing such alteration to the State/Territory Association for endorsement and
forwarding to the National Association"
Which, you know, gets voted on by the members.

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~nmcca/doc/Mosquito_BRR.pdf

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~nmcca/doc/NMCC_Measurement_Form.pdf

I heard the big stick is still in use grin

Darryn

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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Darryn] #217800
08/18/10 11:35 PM
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Darryn's got all the right links there. Nothing of any consequence has changed in them for a couple of decades.

The racing is very good here in Vic as well. It's always a tough race at the front of the fleet. Helped by the fact that all the new boats are pretty much identical.

The "Spirit of the rules" sounds more like an opinion or state of mind than a rule. I imagine it would get mentioned if someone built something wacky and tried to call it a Mosquito. I mean a set of rules as simple as the Mosquito's are always going to have a hole or a weakness somewhere which would mean something completely off-the-wall could be built without breaking them - but what would be the point?

Most of us sail Mosquitoes for the competition, the social side, and for the pleasure of sailing a boat that simply works. There's not much point going to all the trouble of building a boat just to prove there are flaws in the rules. Might as well build an F16 where anything goes.

The tall rig never went anywhere. It was obvious early on that the mast section would have to be replaced as well - leading to a sequence of inevitable changes which would have ended up with the Mozzie turning into the Taipan (again). No point laugh


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: DickenCider 1777] #217802
08/19/10 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DickenCider 1777
I am so tempted. just to test this "spirit of the class" bull##it rule I had thrown at me. I guess I can give certain individuals something to ban or outlaw. I do have some very interesting ideas and yet again it will test the waters. Not many Mozzies up here in cairns so I can secretly invent new ways in private. Is the big stick issue dead??? Hope so. who has a copy of the building regulations? have they been updated?? any new design changes I should be aware of??
Cheers. AJ


I believe there is a F16 in Cairns now, if you want to test theories that is the class to do it, nothing more interesting in Mossies than fitting vertical centreboards which A's did a million years ago. wink


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: DickenCider 1777] #217803
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Originally Posted by DickenCider 1777
I am so tempted. just to test this "spirit of the class" bull##it rule I had thrown at me. I guess I can give certain individuals something to ban or outlaw. I do have some very interesting ideas and yet again it will test the waters. Not many Mozzies up here in cairns so I can secretly invent new ways in private. Is the big stick issue dead??? Hope so. who has a copy of the building regulations? have they been updated?? any new design changes I should be aware of??
Cheers. AJ


The new boats these days are the max dimensions, and they have been performing really well. But its the sailors that actually picked up the game. the hot competition here in vic is that hot that made the class generally have become quicker. and neally all boats are the same. To me my personal opinion i dont like a class like the the "A-Class" and "f16" cos there are too many options and veribles. i like the boats the same and it comes down to the sailor on how they sail the boat and strategies and tactics.

Matt Unko 1816

Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #220832
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Hi Gary,

How'd the verticle boards work out?

Cheers


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Simon C] #220961
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Hey you can't rush boat builders, still waiting on it being finished, hoping to sail it at Club Opening this weekend. crazy


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #221022
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hey gary, do u want to sell your rudder blades cos will might be interrested

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Re: New Centreboards [Re: DickenCider 1777] #221055
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Originally Posted by DickenCider 1777
I am so tempted. just to test this "spirit of the class" bull##it rule I had thrown at me. I guess I can give certain individuals something to ban or outlaw. I do have some very interesting ideas and yet again it will test the waters. Not many Mozzies up here in cairns so I can secretly invent new ways in private. Is the big stick issue dead??? Hope so. who has a copy of the building regulations? have they been updated?? any new design changes I should be aware of??
Cheers. AJ


Hi Mate,
I race at Tinaroo, would love to see a Mozzie up there!!!! I've always been intrigued by the "mini tornado", nice classic timeless lines. beautiful boats.
Chocko


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: engineer] #221229
10/07/10 03:20 PM
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To windward of you!

"mini Tornado"????

im pretty sure the tornado (before rig change anyway) is a mossie on steroids, i mean the mossie is older so they must have copied us..lol

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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Sixth Element] #221247
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Hi mate,
Yeah, the T was released after the Mozzie.
Why no square tops yet? they would be amazing with a square top and a kite!!! I might even be convinced to try one.
Chock


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: engineer] #221256
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Originally Posted by engineer
Hi mate,
Yeah, the T was released after the Mozzie.
Why no square tops yet? they would be amazing with a square top and a kite!!! I might even be convinced to try one.
Chock


Well and truly got the kite cool , don't need the square top, the heavy mast to hold it up would slow the boat down too much wink .


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #221358
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Hi all,

centreboards worked brilliantly, Frecheville & Heeney boat builders did a great job. Looks really solid and a great fit around the boards allows very litte water in the case. No gurgling no humming, just the sweet feel of less drag cool , boat balanced just as it used to and steering felt more responsive smile . Now for the new rudder blades, hopefully they will arrive this week, but will be a few weeks before fitting frown , as I have to make up push rods and fittings.

Did 2 races yesterday in around 15knots of breeze. 6 mossies raced, 3 x Spin, 2 x sloop and 1 cat. I won both races grin . Was a awesome first days sailing for the season, will be hard to get a better day blush.


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #221397
10/10/10 10:54 PM
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I should add to Gary's report on his first two races and say that he completely demolished Peter and myself - upwind and down. We were there, chasing, but nowhere near him. We have some work to do!

Of course Peter and myself both failed the winter boat maintenance test which didn't help. Off the start line for the second race we both sheeted on to the sound of loud bangs. My gooseneck bolt snapped (15 years old - not bad), and Peter's mainsheet strop exploded - well vapourised really, as only the ends were left!


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Sixth Element] #221601
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"The new boats these days are the max dimensions, and they have been performing really well. But its the sailors that actually picked up the game."

As for me having a great boat and great sailor, it will comes out as an excellent.

Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #221675
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Hi All,

new Rudder Blades from the Fibreglass Factory S.A. (Tony Barrett). Arrived today smile , beautifully finished like all his work grin. Love the shape of them cool, from the same mould as Niel Joiner's. Just have to get them fitted up now frown .


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #221692
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About three weeks ago you tried to tell me that Snow Skiing was more expensive than Sailing Gary.....


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: Simon C] #221781
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OK you don't have to rubb it in guys blush . Yes a new boat doesn't look so expensive now, specialy after the centreboard cases crazy .


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Re: New Centreboards [Re: stillbitten] #222069
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Question about how everyone is using their boards. When you pull them up down wind do you just give them a tug or have you carefully marked a line where they are flush with the bottom and lift them to that point each time?

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