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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237244
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Originally Posted by MN3
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Whatever it is it's better than a state income tax.
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we just pay our state income taxes in different ways. i.e higher fuel taxes, taxes on clothing, etc

and i bet thats fl state income tax will be in place withing a few years if we don't get out of our fiscal deficits


I looked (a long time ago) at a couple of engineering jobs in Florida and inquired about the lowish salary rates...more than one company explained that they make up the difference with "Florida sunshine equity" and the lack of a state income tax. The tax offset wasn't enough to justify the higher cost of living and the low wage...and I can't buy food with "sunshine equity". grin



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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Jake] #237245
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The tax offset wasn't enough to justify the higher cost of living and the low wage...and I can't buy food with "sunshine equity"

But you will die Thin and Tan... smile


when i moved here in 94 from the Northeast, the cost of living was at least 33% lower than the up north. Add the lack of state income tax, and it is "attractive". there has been tons of inflation but it still is cheaper than my old class mates pay in rent, insurance, food, etc.

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I have to say that since moving here - I love it. Nothing better than living in Florida IMO. I miss all my friends up in GA and the Carolinas but for my peace of mind, its great.

As for cost of living, sure gas taxes are higher here, but not as bad as in some other areas that DO have an income tax on top of it all.

http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/upload/GASOLINE_TAX_MAP_JULY2011.pdf

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Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by catman
Whatever it is it's better than a state income tax.
ohhhh
we just pay our state income taxes in different ways. i.e higher fuel taxes, taxes on clothing, etc

and i bet thats fl state income tax will be in place withing a few years if we don't get out of our fiscal deficits


I'll take that bet. Since we have a Gov with balls the state has gone from a 3 Billion deficit to over 1 Billion surplus.


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237248
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Originally Posted by MN3
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The tax offset wasn't enough to justify the higher cost of living and the low wage...and I can't buy food with "sunshine equity"

But you will die Thin and Tan... smile


when i moved here in 94 from the Northeast, the cost of living was at least 33% lower than the up north. Add the lack of state income tax, and it is "attractive". there has been tons of inflation but it still is cheaper than my old class mates pay in rent, insurance, food, etc.


Yeah...but I was looking in the Port St. Lucie area and equivalent housing value that I am enjoying upstate SC was cinder-block shackville. So I was either going to have to drive inland to live or find a way to get rich quick - which would have precluded my need for gainful employment.


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Jake,

Believe me, if you're living near the coast, you want to be living in a cinderblock house.

Size is another matter.

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Jake] #237255
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Jake,
That was then about Port St Lucie. Check it out now. Things are dirt cheap and real buys can be had everywhere.

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It's still the definition of "urban sprawl". And Cape Coral, too. Don't ask me how I know.

What are you looking for, Jake? Round these parts, it's flat, flat, flat. You want space? Go to the middle (Okeechobee, Loxahatchee, or any other indian sounding name). You want views? Pay a boatload for a little condo on the water.

Timbo's got the deal... nice little house on the lake. Lake Placid is the same way. An hour to the beach (either coast)


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: catman] #237262
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"projected" surplus | also, technically not a surplus but .. "unallocated general revenue"

Sure, we are up 1 bill.. but they just slashed 1.7Billllliuons from schools and courts... Ask Renee, they just had to cut another 24 million from pinellas schools.
- http://fundeducationnow.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/floridas-self-inflicted-budget-crisis/

"Slashing $1.75 Billion dollars is legislative shock therapy applied to Florida’s public schools.
Florida Legislators are on a mission to destabilize and cause great pain to our children, their teachers and their schools. "


http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...t/gov-scott-says-deficit-turned-surplus/


Originally Posted by catman
Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by catman
Whatever it is it's better than a state income tax.
ohhhh
we just pay our state income taxes in different ways. i.e higher fuel taxes, taxes on clothing, etc

and i bet thats fl state income tax will be in place withing a few years if we don't get out of our fiscal deficits


I'll take that bet. Since we have a Gov with balls the state has gone from a 3 Billion deficit to over 1 Billion surplus.

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ThunderMuffin] #237263
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Agreed! so much mellower than the northeast.
year round sailing, and more..

Originally Posted by Undecided
I have to say that since moving here - I love it. Nothing better than living in Florida IMO. I miss all my friends up in GA and the Carolinas but for my peace of mind, its great.

As for cost of living, sure gas taxes are higher here, but not as bad as in some other areas that DO have an income tax on top of it all.

http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/upload/GASOLINE_TAX_MAP_JULY2011.pdf

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237269
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Originally Posted by MN3
"projected" surplus | also, technically not a surplus but .. "unallocated general revenue"

Sure, we are up 1 bill.. but they just slashed 1.7Billllliuons from schools and courts... Ask Renee, they just had to cut another 24 million from pinellas schools.
- http://fundeducationnow.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/floridas-self-inflicted-budget-crisis/

"Slashing $1.75 Billion dollars is legislative shock therapy applied to Florida’s public schools.
Florida Legislators are on a mission to destabilize and cause great pain to our children, their teachers and their schools. "


http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...t/gov-scott-says-deficit-turned-surplus/


Originally Posted by catman
Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by catman
Whatever it is it's better than a state income tax.
ohhhh
we just pay our state income taxes in different ways. i.e higher fuel taxes, taxes on clothing, etc

and i bet thats fl state income tax will be in place withing a few years if we don't get out of our fiscal deficits


I'll take that bet. Since we have a Gov with balls the state has gone from a 3 Billion deficit to over 1 Billion surplus.


LOL, I'm not going to get sucked into this but if you think spending money in a completely wasteful manner is making kids smarter then I have a bridge you might want to buy. Do you think your going to get an objective opinion from union worker? Shock thearpy my a$$. I can't believe you put that crap up there. Any time you think you lack of money is the problem open your check book and send the union whats left over from your pay check.


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Oh no, I blinked and this thread morphed into Drill Baby Drill...

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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: waterbug_wpb] #237280
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
It's still the definition of "urban sprawl". And Cape Coral, too. Don't ask me how I know.

What are you looking for, Jake? Round these parts, it's flat, flat, flat. You want space? Go to the middle (Okeechobee, Loxahatchee, or any other indian sounding name). You want views? Pay a boatload for a little condo on the water.

Timbo's got the deal... nice little house on the lake. Lake Placid is the same way. An hour to the beach (either coast)


What!? And leave my Garage Mahal? I'm not looking now.


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I am not starting a debate on unions, or if the money cut from the schools was a good or bad call.. just saying...
"after a huge slash in the budget, and then claim we have a "surplus" is a stretch. Especially when it's not even realized money.. it's projected

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237287
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Originally Posted by MN3
I am not starting a debate on unions, or if the money cut from the schools was a good or bad call.. just saying...
"after a huge slash in the budget, and then claim we have a "surplus" is a stretch. Especially when it's not even realized money.. it's projected

It appears you are starting a debate. "Just say it" in the Drill thread (which never should have been here).
Keep the pollution in the (Rick's hit count thread). How about back on topic?


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Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #237288
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I think the original topic was well covered and what is the big deal if a thread morphs into other side topics?


Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237289
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Originally Posted by MN3
I think the original topic was well covered and what is the big deal if a thread morphs into other side topics?



It's political - please take it to the political thread so we don't have to see it if we don't want to.


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so house hunting, large garages, state income tax, cinderblock house construction etc are all acceptable off-thread comments, but talking about state budgets are political and non acceptable?

I call BS

I wasn't starting a political discussion, we are talking about florida still..This is a FORUM for goodness sake... get over it if the topic goes a little off skew

Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida [Re: ] #237291
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seems like someone is just in the mood to argue.


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Originally Posted by SoggyCheetoh
seems like someone is just in the mood to argue.

not really

I just don't like censorship or being told to "take it elsewhere" when others can freely express their thoughts but somehow my opinions aren't allowed in because they are about a budget "surplus"

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