| Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
[Re: brucat]
#237071 09/01/11 12:29 PM 09/01/11 12:29 PM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl ksurfer2
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | Why can't rules be simple so we could actually follow them without hiring lawyers? (Rhetorical, I know it's because the legislators are mainly lawyers.)
The official website says register if over 16 feet. Pretty cut-and-dry, and I provided a link.
Folks here are showing different experiences [insurance clauses, racing may be a special case, discussion about special rules for catamarans (why should they be unique?), etc.]. Not saying I don't believe you (quite the contrary), but no links are provided, which is what would really help anyone trying to figure out what needs to be done.
As for "Big Brother" watching what's parked in your yard, that's definitely possible (there's a reason they hire tax assessors, etc.); but in my experience, it's more likely that a spineless neighbor who doesn't like seeing your boat (is jealous, or whatever), called on you. Yes, there are people who spend more time worrying about what other people are doing wrong, than leaving the house and actually doing something themselves...
ANYWAY, my advice overall would be to register it if you feel there is a strong likelihood of being ticketed, or just to ensure you will have no title issues selling the boat down the line. Otherwise, keep all your paperwork from your purchase, and bet on the odds that the cops have no clue either...
Mike I was just looking over the website, the racing exemption clause appears to have been removed. Looks like a nice loophole has been closed.
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
[Re: catman]
#237072 09/01/11 12:42 PM 09/01/11 12:42 PM |
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 91 Dunedin, FL Headhunter
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Posts: 91 Dunedin, FL | Just to clarify, The guy was in my shop and we talked about it. It was a Stampede. He put the mast and sail on a 17' windrider. Wahoo, He also owns a F-27 just to be totally accurate.
That will cost you another steak dinner along with fireworks. Just to clarify, I don't think that guy's head fires on all 8 cylinders. I'd happily offer another feast but perhaps we should wait until your girl's hand heals from the last incident. | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
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#237074 09/01/11 01:37 PM 09/01/11 01:37 PM |
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5 St Augustine FL Jerry S OP
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Posts: 5 St Augustine FL | I was looking at all the pictures of Giligans Run and not one boat had numbers on the side. So if I show up with letters and #'s on each side of my boat does this open up a hornets nest for the local law.
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[Re: brucat]
#237077 09/01/11 02:31 PM 09/01/11 02:31 PM |
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 139 Hernando, Florida Mlcreek
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Posts: 139 Hernando, Florida | Tell them you don't live in Florida, but a citizen of the Conch Republic!
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[Re: Jerry S]
#237080 09/01/11 04:13 PM 09/01/11 04:13 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | I just insured 2 unregistered/untitled boats(both used) without a problem. It's easy to pay an ins. company. It's collecting thats the hard part. If they can find a way to get out of paying,. the make 100% profits... Just to clarify, I don't think that guy's head fires on all 8 cylinders. Catman or Dartman? I was looking at all the pictures of Giligans Run and not one boat had numbers on the side. So if I show up with letters and #'s on each side of my boat does this open up a hornets nest for the local law. I heard a story from an old(er) sailor about a local sail maker who was arrested (many moons ago) and jailed for having fake numbers on his mono. | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
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#237110 09/02/11 01:08 PM 09/02/11 01:08 PM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | so if you register your boat, are you required to display the registration number for boats over 16ft, but under a certain size?
Jay
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#237112 09/02/11 02:44 PM 09/02/11 02:44 PM |
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... catman
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | That makes two that have been chopped up then. I am certain it was the same guy. cause this guy did purchase the windrider and put his custom spars/sail on it Perhaps, but he stood here and said "Stampede". He'll be in and we'll talk.
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#237113 09/02/11 02:48 PM 09/02/11 02:48 PM |
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... catman
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | I just insured 2 unregistered/untitled boats(both used) without a problem. It's easy to pay an ins. company. It's collecting thats the hard part. If they can find a way to get out of paying,. the make 100% profits... Just to clarify, I don't think that guy's head fires on all 8 cylinders. Catman or Dartman? I was looking at all the pictures of Giligans Run and not one boat had numbers on the side. So if I show up with letters and #'s on each side of my boat does this open up a hornets nest for the local law. I heard a story from an old(er) sailor about a local sail maker who was arrested (many moons ago) and jailed for having fake numbers on his mono. Your labor rate just tripled.
Have Fun
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[Re: waterbug_wpb]
#237175 09/05/11 04:02 PM 09/05/11 04:02 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | so if you register your boat, are you required to display the registration number for boats over 16ft, but under a certain size? no mention of any display exemptions: http://myfwc.com/boating/boating-regulationshowever, these are summaries, not the actual articles/laws so... who knows. (maybe, MAYBE a maritime attorney) | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
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#237194 09/06/11 08:17 AM 09/06/11 08:17 AM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I've got two kayaks that are longer than 16 feet. That mean I have to register them as well? Scratch that. I read that statement wrong
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#237195 09/06/11 08:41 AM 09/06/11 08:41 AM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Chapter 328 Florida Statutes
(abridged)
328.48 2)Each vessel operated, used, or stored on the waters of this state must be registered as a commercial vessel or recreational vessel as defined in s. 327.02, unless it is: (a)A vessel operated, used, and stored exclusively on private lakes and ponds; (b)A vessel owned by the United States Government; (c)A vessel used exclusively as a ship’s lifeboat; or (d)A non-motor-powered vessel less than 16 feet in length or a non-motor-powered canoe, kayak, racing shell, or rowing scull, regardless of length.
328.46Operation of registered vessels.—
(1)Every vessel that is required to be registered and that is being operated, used, or stored on the waters of this state shall be registered and numbered within 30 days after purchase by the owner except as specifically exempt.
VESSEL REGISTRATION FEES
Class 1—16 feet or more and less than 26 feet in length: $28.75 for each 12-month period registered.
(b)In 2013 and every 5 years thereafter, vessel registration fees shall be adjusted by the percentage change in the Consumer Price Index
(7)SERVICE FEE.—In addition to other registration fees, the vessel owner shall pay the tax collector a $2.25 service fee for each registration issued, replaced, or renewed.
(9)SURCHARGE.—In addition, there is hereby levied and imposed on each vessel registration fee imposed under subsection (1) a surcharge in the amount of $1 for each 12-month period of registration, which shall be collected in the same manner as the fee and deposited into the State Agency Law Enforcement Radio System Trust Fund of the Department of Management Services.
(c)The following registration periods and renewal periods are established: 1.For vessels owned by individuals, the registration period begins the first day of the birth month of the owner and ends the last day of the month immediately preceding the owner’s birth month in the succeeding year.
And for Ksurfer2's special exemption:
(14)EXEMPTIONS.—The following vessels are exempt from provisions of subsection (1): (a)A vessel that is owned and operated by Sea Explorer or Sea Scout units of the Boy Scouts of America, the Girl Scouts of America, the Florida Association of Christian Child Caring Agencies, Inc., Safe Harbor Haven, Inc., or the Associated Marine Institutes, Inc., and its affiliates. (b)An antique vessel as defined in paragraph (2)(a). (c)A non-motor-powered sailing vessel that is owned by a nonprofit entity and used exclusively for teaching boating safety, boat handling, or seamanship skills, including the racing of such sailing vessels.
So Karl, being "non-profit" as a gub-ment employee, and teaching old fat guys like me how to not crash into lobster pots at night while speed-reaching in the Keys should qualify... right?
The civil penalty for any such infraction is $50
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Jay
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[Re: brucat]
#237215 09/06/11 02:04 PM 09/06/11 02:04 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | Florida recognizes valid registration certificates and numbers issued to visiting boaters for a period of 90 days. An owner who intends to use his vessel in Florida longer than 90 days must register it with a county tax collector. However, he may retain the out-of-state registration number if he plans to return to his home state within a reasonable period of time. http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/faqboat.html#5 | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
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#237221 09/06/11 03:16 PM 09/06/11 03:16 PM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Florida's new motto
"Just give us your damn money, okay?"
Jay
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[Re: waterbug_wpb]
#237223 09/06/11 04:53 PM 09/06/11 04:53 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | I am just waiting for them to impose a non-impact fee | | | Re: Registering a Hobie in Florida
[Re: catman]
#237243 09/07/11 08:34 AM 09/07/11 08:34 AM | MN3
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Unregistered | Whatever it is it's better than a state income tax. ohhhh we just pay our state income taxes in different ways. i.e higher fuel taxes, taxes on clothing, etc and i bet thats fl state income tax will be in place withing a few years if we don't get out of our fiscal deficits | | |
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