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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: NorthernWave] #240741
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The motion was made to follow the IHCA rule, if and when it becomes official. That motion passed.


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: BigWhoop] #240820
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Originally Posted by BigWhoop
Were are we with this proposal? You know ... the proposal that is the topic of this thread? Rules Chairperson? Rules Committee?



Thanks to BigWhoop for seeing this through. I'm not sure if it will make a lot of difference in the race results but it will certainly make the boats more fun downwind. I have always hated the extreme positions required.

In the end it seems like it was the obvious thing to do and another step toward commonality with the within the Wave community.


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: ] #240825
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Originally Posted by xanderwess
We (HCA) is in the 'testing' phase of this project right now. We have a boats of both variety with tillers added and using them in up/down wind situations to see if it a good/bad deal to propose a change to IHCA. Mimi is heading this up but hasn't given me the scoop on what she thinks just yet. I'll post or ask her to post her findings.



Adding the extension on the old style tiller crossbar will be easy. Is there any decision on the "best" extension design for the new style system that goes way up at an angle with the blades raised?

Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: David Parker] #240893
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No, you'll have to try a few different things and post your findings. There is no perfect way to do it, but I think the tiller stick will be short enough in both situations that it will be managable when the tillers are in the up position.

Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: David Parker] #240906
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Originally Posted by David Parker
Is there any decision on the "best" extension design for the new style system that goes way up at an angle with the blades raised?


You will drill the tiller hinge bolt hole at an angle (tilted forward) through the tiller crossbar to allow the tiller to drop onto the trampoline when both rudders are down. Once a rudder is lifted, the tiller arms are so high... the tiller will have to be aft or over the stern. There is no way to easily sail one rudder up on the EZ Loc.

Tillers and hinges vary, so there is no set dimension.


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: IndyWave] #242918
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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: NorthernWave] #242968
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That's great news. See what happens when you ask nice? smile C'mon Madcatter!


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: NorthernWave] #242974
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Originally Posted by NorthernWave
That's great news. See what happens when you ask nice? smile C'mon Madcatter!


Thanks Don, for having the stamina to get that done.

It shouldn't change the status quo, but I think us older folks will be more comfortable. That was all I had in mind.


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: NorthernWave] #242990
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Finally. I am glad that is out of the way. I'll bet it makes alot more people happy than you think.
I have another rule change in mind too, I'll get to work on this spring and let you know what becomes of it.

Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: NorthernWave] #242996
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Is the rule change for both groups?
Reggie

Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: jackbr549] #243011
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Originally Posted by jackbr549
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Is the rule change for both groups?
Reggie


Yes Reggie...IWCA and HCANA


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: Mugrace72] #243026
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Actually, I just started the ball rolling. All the real work was done by Mimi and xanderwess. They deserve the credit.


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Re: Proposal for a Rules change to allow tiller extensions [Re: jackbr549] #243058
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It was also approved at the IWCA National Meeting in December.


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Re: More SPAM Rick [Re: ] #247260
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Here is another one.


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