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Linking up teams with boat makes #243540
02/04/12 02:20 PM
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Dear all,

I finally had a few hours to myself in a very long time and decided to pick up my old hobbie.

With the various reports and pictures I was able to compile this listing that connects teams with makes but I'm still missing a few combo's. Can anyone help me out with the last few white spaces ?

The names in red are first 3 youth teams

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Wouter Hijink
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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243543
02/04/12 07:10 PM
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Couple of data points... I can confirm Reiss and Chu on the Viper - photo here . And from this video it looks like Bello and Brown were on a Falcon, not a Viper.

Lots more photos here and here that you can probably mine for further details.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243547
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Sarah and Matt were on a viper as well.


After all, its not easy, banging your head against some mad buggers wall.
Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243549
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Knox, and Enrique were both Vipers.


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: ] #243550
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Actually now that I look at that video again I think Bello and Brown probably were on a Viper. My mistake.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243554
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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #243561
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In the fotos there is also a male-female (Blade ?) team that I can't identify, see this picture

http://www.photoboatgallery.net/p385679448/h119c4259#h119c4259

Additionally there is at least one Taipan on the course that remains illusive

Wouter

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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243562
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I also looked over the second series of pics and this is what I have so far. The purple and blank still need to be confirmed.

Looks like a fine mix of boats, indeed !

I'll allow myself one non-impartial remark. 6 non-Vipers in the top 10 with with 2 Falcons in top 3. Seems that the fleet is balancing out a bit after the last 18 months of Vipers dominating the top places. I'm sure that is also to some degree due to Falcon marine setting up their coaching program (as Vipers did a while back). Well done Matt and John !


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243570
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Wouter, Seth and Tina were indeed on a Falcon, that's one of your purple people on the list.

And JC on day two was 2, 2, 1, 2 on day two. His crew was the one who got a dog bone in the eye on day 1 so they came in early and missed most of day 1 racing. The guys at the bottom with all the DNS's were no-shows at the regatta.


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243592
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Originally Posted by Wouter
In the fotos there is also a male-female (Blade ?) team that I can't identify, see this picture

http://www.photoboatgallery.net/p385679448/h119c4259#h119c4259

Additionally there is at least one Taipan on the course that remains illusive

Wouter


2 Taipans

Andrew Sebastian and Will Lints are very new and a bit overwhelmed with the conditions.

Brian Karr and THE Chuck bought Chucks old Taipan back and were only going to sail 1 day but had gudgeon fail so missed even that.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243602
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Originally Posted by Wouter
In the fotos there is also a male-female (Blade ?) team that I can't identify, see this picture

http://www.photoboatgallery.net/p385679448/h119c4259#h119c4259


I found entries for "Team Yahwahnnah" in several races all associated with Chris Stater. Some say it's a Falcon, others say it's a "Vectorworks F16"

See this for examples:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Yahwahnnah+site:www.regattanetwork.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243603
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I've seen it up close. It's a Vectorworks Blade, same as mine.

To be clear, Both the Falcons and Blades came from Matt. He is now 'Falcon Marine.' The Blades also came from Matt, back when he was at Vectorworks.

Same guy, two different boats, Falcons being the 'newer version'.


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Timbo] #243608
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Its a Vectorworks Blade F16
I have know for a while the boat was slow, but at Tradewinds got real dose of reality. I was fighting weather helm pulling the stick with my clenched hand to keep it going straight. I called Matt and discovered my rudder rake was over two inches off. I fixed the rudder rake for latest CABB race and was first to finish, but corrected 4th, the fleet was according apart and then together at the finish. Anyway still a bit to much helm and will correct it a bit more.

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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: sail7seas] #243612
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Which picture is the correct rake

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: ewindsail] #243614
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Originally Posted by ewindsail
Which picture is the correct rake

Raked forward (Rake Port+35mm.jpg ) +35mm in front of line from transom,
but I will be going a bit more forward, for a bit less tug, now using a clenched two fingers.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243619
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You're just re-drilling the pivot hole?


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: pgp] #243620
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Originally Posted by pgp
You're just re-drilling the pivot hole?

Correct, fill and re-drill.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243622
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Awhile back there was some talk about bedding the rudder blade into the rudder housing, have you done that?


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Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: pgp] #243625
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Originally Posted by pgp
Awhile back there was some talk about bedding the rudder blade into the rudder housing, have you done that?

No.
I am thinking about re-routing pull-down line to exit the housing instead of around the through-bolt, (remove through-bolt)
in-order to more move the entire rudder forward 1/2" in the housing to lessen the amount needed to tip forward the rudder.

Re: Linking up teams with boat makes [Re: Wouter] #243675
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Before you starting playing with rudder rake, definately check cunningham while sailing. On the F16 you easily have not enough cunningham when the wind picks up. Then the boat becomes a bit heavier on the rudder. Really easy to know if you're trim is more or less in the ballpark.

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