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Soft Shackles. #244065
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Is there anywhere to buy soft shackles for the spin? I'm sick of tying knots to attach the spin. My splicing ability sucks. Where can I buy them.

Rich


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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: F-18 5150] #244068
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Made my first one this weekend - easy.

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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: F-18 5150] #244075
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JW, that looks just about the right size...for the neck of that beer bottle! Is that whay you use to drag them over the side, to keep them cool?


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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: F-18 5150] #244089
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Cool thanks those look perfect.


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Colligo have a great video on making soft shackles on their home page. 40 cm 3 mm dyneema, a small fid and a spare hour will make you an expert cool


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Easy shackles are better for halyards


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What do you mean by easy shackles? I too am looking for another solution over knots. My spin haylard gets so tight its a quite a feat to get the bowline apart.

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Easy Shackles and spool shackles work the same way. They are metal barrels in which a loop of line goes through the middle and locks around them on each side.

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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: Dan_Delave] #244242
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[Linked Image] Pretty cool - http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Tylaska/Tylaska-spool-shackle.htm

do you think even with the o-ring (second lock) this could come free on the spin clew?

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I went with Vela. Ordered them just before Bad Lattitude posted.

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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: Opher] #244306
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I make my soft shackles a little differently than Colligo. For one thing, I put a locking brummel in the sliding eye before tying the terminal knot. Colligo (at least in their instructional video) doesn't. Without the brummel, the knot will tend to pull out. That's why they have long leads between the knot and the exit (and why they suggest leaving the ends long when making the shackle yourself).

Secondly, Colligo (and most others) tie a knife lanyard knot (a.k.a. diamond knot) in the end. I prefer to make an 8-part button knot. Both are symmetric and appropriately sized, but I feel the button knot is prettier and more secure.

Colligo puts o-rings on the shackle to make it easier to milk closed. I don't. I looked into that, but customers told me that the o-rings tend to get pinched and break off anyway. So, I don't bother.

Both styles generally work and the differences are mostly cosmetic, but I think the locking brummel is a real advantage. Mine are less expensive too smile.

I hope that helps,
Eric

Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: Isotope235] #244307
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Originally Posted by Isotope42
I make my soft shackles a little differently than Colligo. For one thing, I put a locking brummel in the sliding eye before tying the terminal knot. Colligo (at least in their instructional video) doesn't. Without the brummel, the knot will tend to pull out. That's why they have long leads between the knot and the exit (and why they suggest leaving the ends long when making the shackle yourself).

Secondly, Colligo (and most others) tie a knife lanyard knot (a.k.a. diamond knot) in the end. I prefer to make an 8-part button knot. Both are symmetric and appropriately sized, but I feel the button knot is prettier and more secure.

Colligo puts o-rings on the shackle to make it easier to milk closed. I don't. I looked into that, but customers told me that the o-rings tend to get pinched and break off anyway. So, I don't bother.

Both styles generally work and the differences are mostly cosmetic, but I think the locking brummel is a real advantage. Mine are less expensive too smile.

I hope that helps,
Eric


Can you post a close-up pic of one of yours?


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Re: Soft Shackles. [Re: Isotope235] #244312
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Nice JJ! Thanks for sharing that.

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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Can you post a close-up pic of one of yours?

Here are a couple of pics. If you look at the photo of the open shackle, where the line exits the terminal knot, you can see part of the locking brummel. In the photo of the closed shackle, I've turned the knot up so you can see that it's a button knot -- not a lanyard knot.

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Regards,
Eric

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