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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | One of the NACRA 17's popped a mast today. A nasty front came through and did a number on things.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Karl,
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | ohh yeah,
One has to click on "see more" to see the whole message. DUH !
Sometimes I'm just as smart as I look ! =)
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#245730 03/18/12 10:53 AM 03/18/12 10:53 AM |
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Posts: 894 Branford, CT | In case anyone missed it, the Olympic Development Team for the multihull event (Sarah Newberry and Matt Whitehead) are on the way to Spain to represent the US at the Olympic Multihull Trials in Santander. I'm glad we are sending these two. As far as I can tell they are the first US team to step forward and announce that they will campaign for the 2016 Games. Do we know of any other teams or potential teams out there? | | | Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials
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#245756 03/19/12 01:58 PM 03/19/12 01:58 PM |
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | Surprising to Matt on the helm. I figured it would be the other way around.
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#245757 03/19/12 02:02 PM 03/19/12 02:02 PM |
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | That's what I mean by "mixing it up." Smart (IMO) to try both positions. makes the team stronger and gives better perspective in evaluating each platform. These two continue to impress me.
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#245779 03/19/12 03:47 PM 03/19/12 03:47 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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#245849 03/20/12 02:57 PM 03/20/12 02:57 PM |
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Posts: 554 Boston, Ma | I read they did some informal racing in Santander today. Just based on the facebook updates I have read, it sounds like the Nacra 17 and Viper were the top performers, depending mostely on who was at the helm. The AHPC update made it sound like Sarah and Matt really made the Viper perform, which is great to hear!
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#245889 03/21/12 09:59 AM 03/21/12 09:59 AM |
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Posts: 465 FL | >Apparently the Nacra 17 beat the Tornado by 1.5 minutes in the first sail-off of all the cats in 15+ knots. Having seen first hand how much faster an F20c is than a Tornado, I am not surprised that the Nacra 17 (basically a scaled down F20c) is the fastest boat at these trials. I suspect the difference would be even greater in lighter wind where the Tornado's stubby centreboards are a bigger liability. The fact is that there is one boat that is clearly better than all of the others at these trials...the one with curved boards. < http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/in...id=3636516&st=1200&#entry3636516 | | | Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Umm... who were the test pilots?
Usually the nut on the tiller gets the credit!
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#245892 03/21/12 10:53 AM 03/21/12 10:53 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | What I find puzzling it that that other sources report conflicting data.
This is what AHPC claims :
Had 2 teams on the Viper for the afternoon session. Both love the boat. They ran some short races in 8 - 12 knots. Viper did well in the 1st race, 2nd with a average crew who then swapped to the Tornado and really struggled.
Matt and Sara (from USA) were then on for the last 2 races. Lead the first race all the way to the finish but had to stop a bit short with a spin sheet around and under the bow.
Won the last race after a bad first work and hooking to top mark on the rudder.
Note that neither the AHPC or nacra sailing facebook page mention the Tornado as a top finisher. Neither does teh Nacra page say that the second boat (at 1.5 min) was a Tornado. In fact it may well have been the Viper and thus may see both the Nacra version of events line up with AHPC's version.
However, with the Viper doing 1st in the last race and 2nd in the first with a long lead in the second doesn't really align well with the claim that the Nacra 17 is "just clearly better then all the others at the trial. At least not in performance when sailed by a collection of sailors that are new to most designs.
The main conclusion is therefore that there is lots of hype coming from all corners.
It may also be interesting to note how a 15.900 euro Tornadao performance with a 25.900 Euro Marstrom.
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