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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245711
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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: RickWhite] #245714
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Splendid!


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245715
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Hi Mark,

I don't believe that those are "blue poly" tarps on the H16's .... those are "custom" made tramp storage covers I think ... most-likely of blue "Sunbrella" material ....

SWEEEEEET ....

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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245716
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One of the NACRA 17's popped a mast today. A nasty front came through and did a number on things.


I'm boatless.
Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: Karl_Brogger] #245718
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Karl,

How did you come by that info ?

Wouter


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245720
03/17/12 04:15 PM
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First afternoon of the first day at the Olympic trials.

It all started quietly in the morning and after explaining all test sailors how to handle all Multihulls at 2:00 pm all the boats went out. We took a big RIB boat to Santander to facilitate the sailors as much as possible on the water with assistance when needed. The weather started to change rapidly and dark clouds were moving in fast. The wind picked up to 25 knots gusting 30 in the bay. Many boats capsized and unfortunately one of our Nacra 17ís snapped its mast after capsizing. In this bay there is a big sandbank and it probably hit the ground. Gladly we were present to help out and as we speak we are shore replacing it with a new mast. Only 9 days to go and these things happen when it gets rough, so no worries. We have enough spare stuff ;-) . The sailors coming of the NACRA F16 and the NACRA 17 were stoked and enthusiastic. That is where we all work for. To get the as much smiling faces as possible!!! We are going strong and we will report asap again!! Tomorrow looks like a really windy day and the ISAF crew already said that there might not be any sailing done. We just wait and see and will be ready for some hot action.

Team NACRA sailing!


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: Wouter] #245721
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Originally Posted by Wouter

Karl,

How did you come by that info ?

Wouter


Facebook?


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: F-18 5150] #245723
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ohh yeah,

One has to click on "see more" to see the whole message. DUH !

Sometimes I'm just as smart as I look ! =)

Wouter


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: F-18 5150] #245724
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Originally Posted by F-18 5150
Originally Posted by Wouter

Karl,

How did you come by that info ?

Wouter


Facebook?


Email


I'm boatless.
Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245730
03/18/12 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by John Williams
In case anyone missed it, the Olympic Development Team for the multihull event (Sarah Newberry and Matt Whitehead) are on the way to Spain to represent the US at the Olympic Multihull Trials in Santander.


I'm glad we are sending these two. As far as I can tell they are the first US team to step forward and announce that they will campaign for the 2016 Games. Do we know of any other teams or potential teams out there?

Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245755
03/19/12 12:40 PM
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Sarah and Matt, mixing it up...

[Linked Image]


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245756
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Surprising to Matt on the helm. I figured it would be the other way around.


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245757
03/19/12 01:02 PM
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That's what I mean by "mixing it up." Smart (IMO) to try both positions. makes the team stronger and gives better perspective in evaluating each platform. These two continue to impress me.


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245758
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I thought Taylor Reis was going too? No?


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245759
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Looks cold in that pic. Not drysuit cold, but cold nonetheless.

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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245779
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That is what it's all about... your answers on the questionnaire!


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: John Williams] #245849
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I read they did some informal racing in Santander today. Just based on the facebook updates I have read, it sounds like the Nacra 17 and Viper were the top performers, depending mostely on who was at the helm. The AHPC update made it sound like Sarah and Matt really made the Viper perform, which is great to hear!


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #245889
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>Apparently the Nacra 17 beat the Tornado by 1.5 minutes in the first sail-off of all the cats in 15+ knots. Having seen first hand how much faster an F20c is than a Tornado, I am not surprised that the Nacra 17 (basically a scaled down F20c) is the fastest boat at these trials. I suspect the difference would be even greater in lighter wind where the Tornado's stubby centreboards are a bigger liability.

The fact is that there is one boat that is clearly better than all of the others at these trials...the one with curved boards. <
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/in...id=3636516&st=1200&#entry3636516

Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: sail7seas] #245890
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Umm... who were the test pilots?

Usually the nut on the tiller gets the credit!


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Re: US Olympic Multihull Trials [Re: sail7seas] #245892
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What I find puzzling it that that other sources report conflicting data.

This is what AHPC claims :

Had 2 teams on the Viper for the afternoon session. Both love the boat. They ran some short races in 8 - 12 knots. Viper did well in the 1st race, 2nd with a average crew who then swapped to the Tornado and really struggled.

Matt and Sara (from USA) were then on for the last 2 races. Lead the first race all the way to the finish but had to stop a bit short with a spin sheet around and under the bow.

Won the last race after a bad first work and hooking to top mark on the rudder.


Note that neither the AHPC or nacra sailing facebook page mention the Tornado as a top finisher. Neither does teh Nacra page say that the second boat (at 1.5 min) was a Tornado. In fact it may well have been the Viper and thus may see both the Nacra version of events line up with AHPC's version.

However, with the Viper doing 1st in the last race and 2nd in the first with a long lead in the second doesn't really align well with the claim that the Nacra 17 is "just clearly better then all the others at the trial. At least not in performance when sailed by a collection of sailors that are new to most designs.


The main conclusion is therefore that there is lots of hype coming from all corners.

It may also be interesting to note how a 15.900 euro Tornadao performance with a 25.900 Euro Marstrom.


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