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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Timbo] #252523
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Don't get married. Way easier.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Lockenfisch] #252524
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Originally Posted by Lockenfisch
Hobie should start concentrate on building boats thatz fit into classes instead of selling boats with strange weights, dimensions and or looks such as icat, fx-one, 15 and others.

Terminate the icat and make it an A-Cat. Stop the fx-one and do a F16 for example. Maybe Hobie even has the power to build an affordable "A" ?


This is an interesting point.

Matt, can you chime in here? Have the Tiger and Wildcat convinced you that building to a formula rule is a better path to success than strict one-designs? I know that you have focused on recreational markets, but when considering racing designs, is it time to look at building an A-Cat or F16 design? Or, are you so large that you really need the economies of scale and have no interest in the niche racing market?

Mike

Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252525
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I'm curious how many of any model they need to produce to make it work. Would the Wildcat get dropped if they only sell, say, fifty a year?


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Timbo] #252529
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Don't get married. Way easier.


Have you met my friend, Sam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuA0Xm2cy1s&feature=related


He was hilarious, as is my friend, Bob



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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: brucat] #252552
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Originally Posted by brucat


This is an interesting point.

Matt, can you chime in here? Have the Tiger and Wildcat convinced you that building to a formula rule is a better path to success than strict one-designs? I know that you have focused on recreational markets, but when considering racing designs, is it time to look at building an A-Cat or F16 design? Or, are you so large that you really need the economies of scale and have no interest in the niche racing market?

Mike


It's going to take us awhile to figure this out. I can say that we are not looking to build something that is not going to sell. A cats would be one of those in my opinion. They are a constantly moving target and very difficult to rationalize. I'd say we are likely to build boats that appeal to the wider market to get things moving again in Europe... first.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mmiller] #252556
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I'd wager a pint that the F16 market is probably the biggest growing market in Europe, it would be nice to see a Hobie entrant. Certainly the FX1 was a great looking and well built product, unfortunately it just wasn't designed to fit one weight group or the other, trying to fit both groups just didn't work.

Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252557
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A new F-18 maybe? Maybe some more flotation up front in the wildcat and the beam a little further back.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252566
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Thanks Matt.

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