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Texas registration dilemma #253532
10/16/12 09:18 AM
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I'm trying to sell a saildboat to someone in Texas. My state does not require registration nor title for sailboats unless they have a motor. Dilemma is Texas requires a title for the transfer.

Has anyone been through this hassle or have any suggestions? Need something fast frown

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Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: HC16_17_fx] #253534
10/16/12 10:06 AM
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Tell your state it has a motor and register it.


Lee

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Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: HC16_17_fx] #253537
10/16/12 10:23 AM
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When I took a boat to California from Florida, I faced the same thing. Seems like the DMV had a provision for boats coming into the state from one where titles weren't required - I had to do it in person, but California generated a title, collected the fees and I was all set.


John Williams

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Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: HC16_17_fx] #253539
10/16/12 11:50 AM
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what state are you in?

Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: HC16_17_fx] #253540
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This assumes that your state doesn't require a title and you are in compliance with all the rules of your state

You have 2 options:

Sell the boat to them in your state, using whatever forms your state requires. Include a bill of sale detailing the boat. It would be nice if you included a copy of your registration, if your state requires it and some words in the bill of sale that say something like sold in the state of ...., no title is required nor exists and this bill of sale is proof of ownership and of the sales price of the boat. It seems to carry more weight if it is Notarized

When the boat gets to Texas they will have 20 days to register and title the boat.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat/boat/forms/
See form 143 and 504

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboa...and-or%20Registered%20Through%20TPWD.PDF

In the matrix in the link above includes boats that have no title.


If you are feeling real nice, have the new owners call Texas Parks and Wildlife either your local office or Austin:
1) Get the name of the person you are talking to
2) Tell them the truth, you are buying/have bought a boat in a state that does not require a title and you have bill of sale and whatever else
3) Ask them what you need to do to do
4) Do exactly what they said no matter how silly it seems it seems. They are a paramilitry organization, i.e. you can do what they want or keep doing it over and over again until you get it right.
5) Take all the paperwork to the Parks and Wildlife Office and say "soandso told me this is what I needed to do, here it is"

And help them with whatever Parks and Wildlife says they need.

Note not all Park and Wildlife Offices are equal and this is a state deal so you can use the one in the area with the best reputation, ask around. In Houston I recommend the one on the Southwest Freeway. Unless you have "friends" stay away from LaMarque



In general I would write up a separate bills of sale for the "boat", the trailer, and then everything else included (Sails any extras). This is because only the trailer and the "boat" is taxable.

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Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: carlbohannon] #253670
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I jsut talked to TX and NY. NY is prohibited from providing letters that detail commonly available information. suggested NADA book on state titles and registrations ($120). all NYS documents and forms clearly say motorized boats. Barbara in Texas says it must stated on NYS letterhead and signed. Around and around to no where.

Re: Texas registration dilemma [Re: HC16_17_fx] #253676
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welcome to gub'ment....


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