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Tradewinds Story and Pix Up #256481
01/23/13 12:52 PM
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Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256482
01/23/13 12:58 PM
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Thanks for a great weekend, Rick. Really enjoyed it and it was a pleasure meeting you.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256485
01/23/13 02:10 PM
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Great location and great event.

But what happened to the avg scores for not being able to sail on Monday?





Here is a Flyer and NOR:
OVERVIEW OF THE NAMSA NA's & MIDWINTER NATIONALS:
(If you are unable to make the racing on Saturday or Monday, we will take your average scores for the balance of the regatta and apply those finish position to your Friday finishes)

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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: mikekrantz] #256487
01/23/13 04:14 PM
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anyone have contact info for the two N20 teams that sailed the event?

Are they "local" (southeast US)?

With those two teams and the 5+ teams in FL, there's a pretty decent dead-boat fleet if they all figured out which events to sail...

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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256490
01/23/13 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
anyone have contact info for the two N20 teams that sailed the event?

Are they "local" (southeast US)?

With those two teams and the 5+ teams in FL, there's a pretty decent dead-boat fleet if they all figured out which events to sail...


One is a hybrid Ocean Springs, MS / Detroit, MI team (boat in MS)...the other was a Canuck team. Check your PMs.

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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256492
01/23/13 06:12 PM
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Not a Canuck team, a NJ team and they now own an f18 but I think their 20 is for sail

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256493
01/23/13 06:48 PM
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Miami, FL
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Hey Rick, thanks for the nice story and all the pictures.

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: mikekrantz] #256503
01/24/13 07:04 AM
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Mike, despite agonizing how that could be done, I saw no way to do it, so it was not planned to do.
Losing 16 boats on the last day has me thinking. Perhaps we should reschedule to the weekend prior to the A Class, ending on Sunday, ergo we can use the absentee Friday deal
Should the A Class ever decide to give up there Wed layday and end on Thursday, that would be the only way to do it.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256504
01/24/13 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Mike, despite agonizing how that could be done, I saw no way to do it, so it was not planned to do.
Losing 16 boats on the last day has me thinking. Perhaps we should reschedule to the weekend prior to the A Class, ending on Sunday, ergo we can use the absentee Friday deal
Should the A Class ever decide to give up there Wed layday and end on Thursday, that would be the only way to do it.


(in that case, this probably shouldn't be in the NOR).

Spring Fever just averages your scores for the races on that day that you can't make. Score a 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10 on days 1&2, get a 7.5 for the rest of the races on day 3 (or Day 1 - whichever was the published "option day".


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256505
01/24/13 10:27 AM
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I don't think the low turnout on Monday was due to the scheduling. I think a lot of people were afraid of bobbing around waiting for the wind. we could have gone out but didn't think the wind would be there. We chose poorly..

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: John McKnight] #256506
01/24/13 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnM
Hey Rick, thanks for the nice story and all the pictures.


+1


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: PTP] #256507
01/24/13 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PTP
I don't think the low turnout on Monday was due to the scheduling. I think a lot of people were afraid of bobbing around waiting for the wind. we could have gone out but didn't think the wind would be there. We chose poorly..


When Rick reported that it was 8 at the committee boat I was sure his pants were on fire, but we went out anyway. It was nice to see the breeze, it wasn't 8 but it was there and building. We actually had the best wind of the weekend on Monday.

You should have sailed Mike. You might want to check the fine print in the Spring Fever NOR, if you want the optional scoring you have to declare which days you are sailing when you register. This prevents someone for looking at the conditions on any particular morning and deciding it would be better to take the averages rather than sail in conditions that don't work well for them. There is always a catch.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: David Ingram] #256510
01/24/13 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by PTP
I don't think the low turnout on Monday was due to the scheduling. I think a lot of people were afraid of bobbing around waiting for the wind. we could have gone out but didn't think the wind would be there. We chose poorly..


When Rick reported that it was 8 at the committee boat I was sure his pants were on fire, but we went out anyway. It was nice to see the breeze, it wasn't 8 but it was there and building. We actually had the best wind of the weekend on Monday.

You should have sailed Mike. You might want to check the fine print in the Spring Fever NOR, if you want the optional scoring you have to declare which days you are sailing when you register. This prevents someone for looking at the conditions on any particular morning and deciding it would be better to take the averages rather than sail in conditions that don't work well for them. There is always a catch.


Just had lunch with Mike and discussed. Totally agree that you would have to declare ahead of time.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: David Ingram] #256519
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
We actually had the best wind of the weekend on Monday.


yeah, I was getting that feeling on the beach when I was taking the boat apart frown

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: PTP] #256539
01/25/13 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PTP

yeah, I was getting that feeling on the beach when I was taking the boat apart frown


Although the sailing Monday was really nice and the venue was off the chain it wasn't my favorite part the of the weekend. The hands down highlight was when our red headed Candian friend gave Ricky a new nickname that he absolutly HATES! I promise to only use it when you really deserve it Ricky. For example when you start taking sh!t at 'A' mark or any other location on the course. Oh yeah, another reason why racing in light air sucks... Ricky won't STFU.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: David Ingram] #256576
01/26/13 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by PTP

yeah, I was getting that feeling on the beach when I was taking the boat apart frown


Although the sailing Monday was really nice and the venue was off the chain it wasn't my favorite part the of the weekend. The hands down highlight was when our red headed Candian friend gave Ricky a new nickname that he absolutly HATES! I promise to only use it when you really deserve it Ricky. For example when you start taking sh!t at 'A' mark or any other location on the course. Oh yeah, another reason why racing in light air sucks... Ricky won't STFU.


Do tell. I'm OK with "Ricky" going to the dustbin as long as the new one irritates the shite out of him. Chris was funny pickin' on him Thursday night also.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: David Ingram] #256582
01/27/13 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by JohnM
Hey Rick, thanks for the nice story and all the pictures.


+1


+ another one


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256587
01/27/13 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Mike, despite agonizing how that could be done, I saw no way to do it, so it was not planned to do.
Losing 16 boats on the last day has me thinking. Perhaps we should reschedule to the weekend prior to the A Class, ending on Sunday, ergo we can use the absentee Friday deal
Should the A Class ever decide to give up there Wed layday and end on Thursday, that would be the only way to do it.


Rick: great event, FANTASTIC Venue

A quick note for you from a team that travels far for the event (from Canada), PLEASE keep this a three day event. Long travel really isn't worth it for a 2 day event.

A note about the monday (which all others here have made). A LOT of teams woke up to see glass, even at 8 am. Given the forecast for the day was 2 knots, I think a lot of people made the early call to pack it up, even though RC had decided to run races. I know the RC made the right call, wind came in, etc. But I wouldn't read as much into the lower number on Monday, IMO it had to do with waking up to 0 knots, and a forecast that had 0 knots. I for one learnt my lesson, plan on going out no matter what ;-) To be honest, the RC had a tendency to overstate the wind speed all weekend so there may have been a "trust" factor when they said they had 8 (top of the mast maybe?)... Anyway, lessons were learnt and the RC was very very forgiving with "late starters", overall great job which got better as the weekend went on.

As for the "missing day" scoring, just have the team indicate on registration the first day of the event if they had to miss a day, and thats that. Avoids "last minute drops".

Side note: you can tell Chris doesn't have much hair when you guys call him a red head canuck! I've sailed with him my whole life... he's no ginger, that was just his burnt scalp shining through ;-)...

Last edited by maritimesailor; 01/27/13 02:52 PM.
Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #256588
01/27/13 05:47 PM
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Sorry Todd you chose to to sail the A cat event instead of tradewinds, that's the price you pay. Plus the fact your F18 is for sale does not sit well with the families.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256589
01/27/13 06:32 PM
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+another: for waking up and seeing glass, thus calling it a weekend. I did not help that we (and others) were hanging hard from a fun night of watching football at the Ocean View. crazy I know others who saw the same thing and decided to enjoyed other things to do on a very beautiful day in the keys.

It was not Monday you were up against, it was a gorgeous calm day in the Keys that was to blame.

I say do have it on the same weekend, with the MLK Monday.


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