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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256558
01/25/13 10:14 PM
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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: rhodysail] #256561
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Originally Posted by rhodysail
smile


Do I hear you blowin the dust off the ole banana boat, Bob??

Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256566
01/26/13 12:51 PM
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Spinnakers? Jus' teasin'.


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: pgp] #256568
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Originally Posted by pgp
Spinnakers? Jus' teasin'.


No you're not. wink
I almost asked too.....


I'm boatless.
Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256569
01/26/13 03:46 PM
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Oh no you Dint!

If we are going down that road, then I think the Single Handed boat should be a spin boat as well!

Go UNI Racers!


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Timbo] #256575
01/26/13 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Oh no you Dint!

If we are going down that road, then I think the Single Handed boat should be a spin boat as well!

Go UNI Racers!


I am not on the committe... BUT... this is a bottom up process.... This is about motivating a class... find a club, partner with US sailing and have the US chamionship.

If the single handed spin class can get organized, talk with the committee about what they are looking for (standards), make a proposal, partner with a club and make it happen... so YES a single handed spin championship could serve as the alter cup championship.


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What am I missing here? I had thought you qualified in your region, and then there was a boat supplied to you at THE alter cup event. ? Sorry for the bewilderment


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256584
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They couldn't find any manufacturers to supply new boats, so it became run your own.

Not sure about how that will impact the gualification regattas to get into the Alter Cup however.

Let's say you win the qualifier on your F18, and the AC is on a Hobie 16...but Who's Hobie 16? Or will they be supplied?

Or will it from now on always be a 'BYOB" event?


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256585
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Qualifier? I thought that went away?


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256586
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BYOB or charter, no provided boats. No qualifiers.

I'm not going to rehash the background on this, it's all been discussed here before.

Mike

Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Todd_Sails] #256598
01/28/13 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Todd
What am I missing here? I had thought you qualified in your region, and then there was a boat supplied to you at THE alter cup event. ? Sorry for the bewilderment


Rip van Winkle in da house....

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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Jake] #256601
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Come on guys....rehash it again...what else have ya got to do?? sleep grin tired sick crazy shocked

(hope you know I'm just KIDDING!)

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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256602
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Naw, I'm done trying to put a spin on the H16.

But I would dearly love to see a "B" fleet for Alter Cup, any Alter Cup.


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: pgp] #256604
01/28/13 11:27 AM
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I like "B" fleets, but why would they be at the Alter Cup, which would be like racing go-carts at the F-1 finals..?

Explain how you'd like to see the B fleet at Alter Pete? Would there be a "B Fleet Alter Cup" winner or something? Would it run the same course/start as the "A" fleet?

I think I know some of the answers, but would like your vision explained in a little more detail...


Jay

Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256607
01/28/13 11:39 AM
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As far as I know "B" fleet was always on a separate course and mostly for the party goers rather than serious racers.

Imo, Alter Cup should come to celebrate the sport and culture of beach cat sailing. To do so it should provide a venue for the best racers who care to compete while providing a celebratory atmosphere for the rest of us.



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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: pgp] #256608
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Now I DO like that concept....

Celebrate the sport, watch the top-tier competition and the rest of us can wander about in boats outside of the course area?


Jay

Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256610
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Yeh, I guess. I'd like a big party that financially unerwrites the top tier competition without interferring with that competition.

Personally, I'd be willing to buy a seat on a spectator boat but you'd probably need to provide a "B" fleet course as well.


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256616
01/28/13 12:17 PM
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Great idea but this is not the venue to do it in. Last year during a F-18 race in the same venue at one point there were 5 boats over at the same time. All but 2 boats flipped in the same race. When the wind and tide get together it tests you pretty well.


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256617
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Want to be there and watch? Volunteer to be on a boat to help out. Jumpers, scorekeepers, ect are needed.


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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced [Re: Mark Schneider] #256618
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Sounds like work...


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