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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256693
01/29/13 10:14 AM
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I thought the 47% got every day off, right?

;^)


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: Timbo] #256695
01/29/13 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I thought the 47% got every day off, right?

;^)


I think that's 41%.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256698
01/29/13 10:54 AM
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That's not what Mitt said.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256700
01/29/13 11:13 AM
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Just to parrot others, it needs to be a three day event. It's 1800 miles for me one way, and a two day just isn't worth blowing two grand on fuel, and burning up a pickup that I can't replace to do it.

I wish I could've made it this year, stupid work, it ruins everything fun.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256706
01/29/13 11:51 AM
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Rick, fair point on the entry fee. Maybe I was thinking Steeplechase for the lower entry fee. Sorry it's been a financial struggle for you, I hope this year was better.

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256709
01/29/13 12:29 PM
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Small note: 100 bucks for a three day regatta is normal and very acceptable, I would argue add another 20 bucks and include the second t-shirt for the crew. Until Rick starts rolling up in a fancy car with lots of bling, I trust he isn't trying to make a dime :-)

I'll +1 all that wildtsail7 said, but emphasize that a lot was done right as well.

Thanks Rick and company, see you all next winter.

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: maritimesailor] #256711
01/29/13 02:11 PM
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I've struggled through a few buoy races (T-winds / Eustis) where the shifts were huge, and we ended up reaching to A mark more than once.

But yes, it's hard to score those as official results when it wasn't really a W/L course

We all can't be winners, Ricky


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256721
01/29/13 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
We all can't be winners whiners, Ricky?


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256723
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When bad shifts happen, the RC has four basic options (all valid, this shows up on NRO exams, and you are expected to list the pros and cons of each):

Abandon

Shorten

Change

Do Nothing

The last one often eludes people, partly because it isn't in the rule book, and partly because sometimes it's tempting to do whatever you can to try to fix everything.

However, sometimes, trying to fix a bad situation only makes it worse. This is especially true with multiple fleets, handicap races, unprepared mark boats ("We don't need all of those flags on every boat"), etc.

Mike

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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: brucat] #256748
01/30/13 12:40 PM
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I'm just happy there's a PRO/ RC out there in the first place...

I'll let you rock stars go sit through protest committees and second-guess the RC.


Jay

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256772
01/31/13 07:02 AM
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It is difficult to adjust a course for shifts during the race when there are 4 classes on the course and all overlapped. Easily done with one class.
Donita did a great job in general. The offset was controlled by a volunteer from CABB, who is not a big time racer, and I believe we got his offset corrected to be slightly deep reach.
On the start mark being moved, Donita asked for the adjustment after the warning and before the Prep. Should have been done before the warning. My fault.., I would not have touched it had I seen she was already in sequence.
Just let you suffer. ha ha
Rick


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256773
01/31/13 07:03 AM
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Looks like we will keep it a three day, for sure, and be able to preseleect your missing day, should you not be able to be there the entire regatta.
Remains MLK weekend Sat thru Sun, until or unless the A Class no longer ends on Friday
Rick


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256778
01/31/13 08:24 AM
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Rick, did you mean; Sat thru Monday? Or are you considering Friday-Sunday if the A cats are done by Friday?


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: Timbo] #256781
01/31/13 09:45 AM
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How about Friday (afternoon) thru Monday .... we can leave the course in place from the last A regatta and get a couple of races in on Friday afternoon ... since they A guys will not start a race after 1 PM so as to pack up and depart. we could easily get off 2 races in the nice afternoon breeze!

More racing for Brogger mad


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: tback] #256783
01/31/13 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tback
More racing for Brogger mad


Why the mad face Terry? smile


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: tback] #256786
01/31/13 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tback
How about Friday (afternoon) thru Monday .... we can leave the course in place from the last A regatta and get a couple of races in on Friday afternoon ... since they A guys will not start a race after 1 PM so as to pack up and depart. we could easily get off 2 races in the nice afternoon breeze!

More racing for Brogger mad


I'm thinking out loud before my brain really processes here...but what about a shortish distance race(ing) friday?


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: Karl_Brogger] #256788
01/31/13 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by tback
More racing for Brogger mad


Why the mad face Terry? smile


Thought it was an evil grin .... no disrespect intended ... now go back to building cabinets.


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Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: RickWhite] #256789
01/31/13 11:27 AM
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A run around molasses reef tower and back would be fun.

Maybe twice depending on the wind.

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: mikekrantz] #256792
01/31/13 11:38 AM
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uh, there's no reason you COULDN'T do that.... are you proposing to make something like than an 'official' race?

I can't imagine you couldn't arrange an impromptu distance thing among the early-arrivers...?


Jay

Re: Tradewinds Story and Pix Up [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256797
01/31/13 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
uh, there's no reason you COULDN'T do that.... are you proposing to make something like than an 'official' race?

I can't imagine you couldn't arrange an impromptu distance thing among the early-arrivers...?


As part of the three day event.


Jake Kohl
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