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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261223
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AR would be eliminated by the jury rule decisions. ETNZ proposing dispensation to allow them back in.


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GGYC is saying now that without those safety measures in place they will face liability concerns and will cancel the race... bugger.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261226
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Some people just don't know when to dust themselves off and move forward.

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Originally Posted by Jake
Several articles today state that they (LR) think they have a boat that can beat NZ.

Sorry. Ain't happening. Tune in Saturday for the butt whippin'


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"We respect the decision of the America’s Cup Jury," said Grant Simmer, Oracle Team USA General Manager. “We continue to support the Regatta Director and we believe all teams have benefited from his review. We don’t have an issue complying with the Class Rule, and we will be ready to race under the rules affirmed by the Jury.”


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Originally Posted by Jake
We'll see if Artemis really has a plan B or if they are out.

As I read the ruling, the Jury threw out Regatta Notice 189, which is the document that elevates all 37 Safety Recommendations to Rules. Therefore, the boats will have to go back to their pre-recommendation (i.e. small, non-adjustable) elevators. Team Artemis reportedly has rudders that comply, so they should be able to race.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261231
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I thought Luna Rossa was gaudy when it came out, and still do, but those sailing/spaceman suits are downright comical. I hope those guys got a nice bonus to have to dress like that.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

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Originally Posted by Isotope42
Originally Posted by Jake
We'll see if Artemis really has a plan B or if they are out.

As I read the ruling, the Jury threw out Regatta Notice 189, which is the document that elevates all 37 Safety Recommendations to Rules. Therefore, the boats will have to go back to their pre-recommendation (i.e. small, non-adjustable) elevators. Team Artemis reportedly has rudders that comply, so they should be able to race.


That's good to hear. I never quite got the jist of them NOT being able to sail.


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Originally Posted by brucat
ETNZ wanted AR to be given dispensation (the IJ refused). What does that mean in English???

ETNZ was trying to give Artemis an exemption for their "outside the beam" elevators. Hopefully that should squash the allegations that ETNZ was trying to exclude Artemis from the regatta. The jury ruled, however, that it does not have the authority to grant such dispensation.


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Originally Posted by Jake
catamarans murder dolphins.


and I murder landscape regularly... I call it "golf"... so what of it?


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Here ya go Tawd



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Originally Posted by mummp
Here ya go Tawd



Like I said "BIG BONUS".


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

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I'm hopeful that Artemis can find a way to make it work - but I must say I feel better about this ruling in that it should no longer taint any victory.

On another note; I wonder if Luna Rossa's silver metallic life vests are USCG certified? grin


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Originally Posted by Isotope42
Originally Posted by brucat
ETNZ wanted AR to be given dispensation (the IJ refused). What does that mean in English???

ETNZ was trying to give Artemis an exemption for their "outside the beam" elevators. Hopefully that should squash the allegations that ETNZ was trying to exclude Artemis from the regatta. The jury ruled, however, that it does not have the authority to grant such dispensation.



ETNZ had to know that.


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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
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Here ya go Tawd



Like I said "BIG BONUS".


I keep hearing "Spaceman Spiff!" in my head when I see closeups of these guys. You know they're catching hell.


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LR didn't really look like they were hitting on all cylinders yesterday, my money is on ETNZ for tomorrow.

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USCG says they need flotation certified from their home country. Did the OA pile onto that?

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