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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261711
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They look nice and stable in those clips.

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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261713
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I'm sure no one wants that boat racing sooner than the Artemis team.

However, it would be borderline reckless to race the new boat within days of splashing it. This isn't an off the shelf boat, isn't likely to handle like the old boat (which hasn't been sailable since the tragedy), and can hit close to 50 knots.

I totally respect their decision.

Mike

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Redtwin] #261714
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Originally Posted by Redtwin
What is the skin on that rear beam made of. It has the same look as the wing.

[img:left]http://photo.americascup.com/index....mp;FolioID=1358&numpage=31&pre=g[/img]


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Same as the wing. Carbon/(nomex?) frames with Clysar film. Same heat shrink stuff your CDs come wrapped in.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261715
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Looking at the Artemis wing, it looks wider in the middle and narrower at the top the the ENZ wing. Has anyone done a wing comparision for all the boats?

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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: orphan] #261716
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Originally Posted by orphan
Looking at the Artemis wing, it looks wider in the middle and narrower at the top the the ENZ wing. Has anyone done a wing comparision for all the boats?

Maybe this will update shortly
Originally Posted by mummp
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http://chevaliertaglang.blogspot.fr/2013/06/scoop-les-ac72-devoiles.html


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261717
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261718
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and this
Looking at the NZ wing profile might explain their blazing speed. Artemis seems to be heading in the same direction. Definitely a lower aero profile. Oracle, what's ya got??


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261721
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Very interesting read on the wing designs!

Oracle's LE looks thick. It's going to be interesting to see how it stacks up against ETNZ.

I gotta admit - I love the look of Artemis's boat. Big Blue is classy looking.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261723
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Originally Posted by mummp


Black Flag, really? LR clearly doesn't want to be embarrassed when they run aground (again)? Blaming it on wanting to build teamwork? Companies pay big bucks to send employees to "race" on 12 Meters in Newport as a team-building exercise...

It amazes me, every time I think I couldn't possibly respect the leadership of this team any less, they find yet another creative way to lower the bar...

Sadly, I used to love LR, back in the San Diego Cup.

Mike

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261724
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Right!

Just run it! Clearly they need the work!

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261725
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261727
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New Artemis cat is looking good:
[Linked Image]

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Tony_F18] #261728
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
New Artemis cat is looking good:
[Linked Image]


They look better than Luna Rosa in my opinion. I guess we will eventually see.

-Rob V.



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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261729
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Stable beautiful foiling in 12 knots.
Tom Schnackenberg "Boat's peak today was 40(knots)".
Each and every single member of the Artemis program are already WINNERS! What a journey.
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Awesome video.



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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261731
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I gotta admit - she looks good early. She's running safe at the moment but it's looking good!

Love these vids!

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261736
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Why wouldn't Artemis go ahead and cross the start line, then go practice, and hope that LR crashes? They are giving races away. They can start behind, and then practice over the course, and if LR does fk up badly, who knows, they might even win one, while practicing.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Timbo] #261742
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Why wouldn't Artemis go ahead and cross the start line, then go practice, and hope that LR crashes? They are giving races away. They can start behind, and then practice over the course, and if LR does fk up badly, who knows, they might even win one, while practicing.


These guys are nowhere near race form. They just started foiling, for the first time, a day or so ago. To jump into a race will lock them into the conditions for the day and will put the team into a scenario where human nature takes over and they start making aggressive decisions they may cost them. It's a better decision to not race and get some time on the boat. LR has had months of foiling practice and experience - I wouldn't expect that Artemis really has anything for them at this point.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #261746
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Yikes! It's going to be interesting the first time a dagger board foil hits something in the water while at full speed. What type of marine life is in the Bay that they might encounter? Dolphins? Any big sea turtles? Orca's? That'd slow you down!

I know I've hit plenty of turtles on my lake, luckily I wasn't going 40kts up on foils!


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