I've got a hypothetical question for all you cat sailors.
Beach cats have done well through the years, from Hobie 16s to A class. Small trimarans have not. What's interesting is when you go above 24 feet, tris tend to be more popular.
My hypothetical question is, if a manufacturer came out with a 18-20' racing geared trimaran on par in terms of speed, quality of build, dealer network with a modern cat, would any beach cat sailors go that route? I haven't priced cats in this size but lets say realistically in the ball park of $17,000-21,000.
With all the beach cats sold through the years I think it would be a fair bet that as the body ages, the desire to sit on a tramp or in a trapeze looses it's appeal.
I think the combination of a sit down ****, modern design/rig and high speed would be desirable.
Thoughts?
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Re: Small Trimarans
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#26348 11/21/0311:39 AM11/21/0311:39 AM
One problem I see is that if you design a racing Tri in the 20-24' arena you are still going to have to hike on it. Just thinking that one would sit in the **** and steer is, well it ain't going to happen. Also having recently sailed on a Nacra 6.0 and comparing it to my F31R, I would neever go to a smaller tri than a 24'. The Corsair F24 is a nice boat, but still to heavy for pure racing, and the fear of capsizing a tri is much greater than capsizing a 20' cat. My question is why would anyone consider paying 10K more for a 20' tri when they can get a new 20' Cat for that much less. I know that if I didn't have a family I would be on a Cat in a heartbeat!
Someday I will have one, when is the question?
Re: Small Trimarans
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#26349 11/21/0301:05 PM11/21/0301:05 PM
I would be interested in owning a trimaran like that but if I had that money to spend, I would probably buy a nice new cat too. I would, however, be very interested in home-building a 20 foot trimaran should I ever find the time and resources.
Jake Kohl
Re: Small Trimarans
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#26350 11/21/0301:50 PM11/21/0301:50 PM
In my Tornado days in the 1970's I saw a 20-21' LOA with a beam about 16' folding tri that sailed quite well. It was kit made of some sort of wood and looked like a Shark finish. The problem was mounting on the trailer. The center section was basically a hull similar in size to the amas with no ****. The hinges required the center hull to be mounted pretty high. The amas folded almost underneath the centerhull completely. It took about two hours to put together. It had a daggerboard in the center hull and kickup rudder and about the same size as the sailplan as the Tornado. He made the boat from plans in Popular Science or Mechanics I believe. I haven't seen one since.
thommerrill
Re: Small Trimarans
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#26351 11/21/0301:55 PM11/21/0301:55 PM
If you are looking for a small tri then how about this one. It is designed so a person can sit constantly in a central seat. is 3m too small? it is from kendrick designs.
although have a look at the other designs on the page. there is the scarab 6.7 which costs about Aussie $13000 to build and uses a rig off a hobie 18 (or tornado if you're game)
Re: Small Trimarans
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#26355 11/22/0303:56 AM11/22/0303:56 AM
'sport' monohulls are quite popular like the Henderson 21 (SRMAX). I think I would really enjoy a 'sport' trimaran in the 20' range with enough under deck storage for some gear and a cooler but with plenty of performance to go. That would be a distance race machine! How about a scaled down ORMA 60? Oooooo. Yeah, I know...try to do that under $20k - huh.
Jake Kohl
Does it come with a trailer?
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#26357 11/22/0311:56 AM11/22/0311:56 AM
I have built 3 KHSD 12 foot (stretched to 16 foot) trimarans. Cost about $3 using a Hobie 14 rig and rudders with Sunfish daggerboard. http://www.multihulldesigns.com/stock/daysailer.html these boats are not ment to be an alternative to beach cats. "Driving" position is seated in the center hull with foot steering and all controls within reach. I am trying to develop a sail boat for disabled sailors and elderly folks and building and sailing these three boats has been very enlightening.