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South Carolina | I posted that here yesterday. Ehman has a history of stirring the pot. Needs to be careful with that Dalton rule they put in about tarnishing the image of the cup....that could come back to bite them again if he's making public false accusations. edit; oh wait...i see that this is what ETNZ is filing. Yikes.
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| Not disagreeing, but I'd be MUCH more impressed if that were written by anyone other than an organizer... Mike | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Naples, FL | All right, time to throw down your predictions for today...
It's ENTZ's regatta/cup to lose right now with their big lead in points. I'd be willing to bet they were out yesterday perfecting their crew-work, while the engineers were pounding Red Bull and keyboards to figure out the next speed tweak.
The ENTZ afterguard showed they can play boat/boat tactics well, but can they keep OTUSA's potential upwind speed delta at bay? Have they a trick or two yet to play?
OTUSA showed huge speed potential, and better transitions. It's a long uphill slog to claw the points back to their side, but if anyone can do it the Jimmy/Benny/Slingsby afterguard can. If they could drop the mono-tactic mindset (really? Drop off a foil and pass astern is fast?) and continue to own starts it could get really interesting.
What will the tides be today? Will we have to listen to endless drivel about the "Cone behind Alcatraz"? Or will it revert to the "all hail the lee-bow"?
Above all I am very happy that nothing has broken on either boat. I'd hate the cup to go to anyone based on default because of equipment failure.
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South Carolina | Not disagreeing, but I'd be MUCH more impressed if that were written by anyone other than an organizer... Mike It is a little self inflating but he's got some room to call out all the negative articles that are silent at the moment. They're finally experiencing what they had envisioned after what appeared to be a runaway train of disappointment.
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South Carolina | All right, time to throw down your predictions for today...
It's ENTZ's regatta/cup to lose right now with their big lead in points. I'd be willing to bet they were out yesterday perfecting their crew-work, while the engineers were pounding Red Bull and keyboards to figure out the next speed tweak.
The ENTZ afterguard showed they can play boat/boat tactics well, but can they keep OTUSA's potential upwind speed delta at bay? Have they a trick or two yet to play?
OTUSA showed huge speed potential, and better transitions. It's a long uphill slog to claw the points back to their side, but if anyone can do it the Jimmy/Benny/Slingsby afterguard can. If they could drop the mono-tactic mindset (really? Drop off a foil and pass astern is fast?) and continue to own starts it could get really interesting.
What will the tides be today? Will we have to listen to endless drivel about the "Cone behind Alcatraz"? Or will it revert to the "all hail the lee-bow"?
Above all I am very happy that nothing has broken on either boat. I'd hate the cup to go to anyone based on default because of equipment failure. I don't know what's next (which is what is pretty cool about it). Oracle has a mountain to climb but could they come out with something else to help them increase their speed and agility further? The changes they've made since they started racing NZ are pretty dramatic but they are going to need to find a little more advantage to have a chance at keeping NZ from winning two more. Or, rather, does NZ go to the drawing board and come up with something to counter and end this thing now? I still think NZ takes it all at this point - it's theirs to lose...but Oracle is going to go down swinging.
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Northfield Mn | The way I see it happening - two days of splits.
The way I want it to happen - Oracle comes back from behind and wins the thing by 1 point - making this cup perhaps the best come from behind story in sporting history.
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Naples, FL | The way I see it happening - two days of splits.
The way I want it to happen - Oracle comes back from behind and wins the thing by 1 point - making this cup perhaps the best come from behind story in sporting history.
Holy Crap that would be cool. It would undoubtedly end up in all mainstream media even though ENTZ was originally the "from humble beginnings" team, right? A run on the table by OTUSA is needed to get back in the game, which could look boring... But throw in an ENTZ win in the middle and the fans would practically freak out.. Given neither team appears to have what it takes (anymore) to run away with it, we could be in for a most exciting few days of close fought sailing. As I see it currently, it's whomever makes the fewest mistakes will win the race (and possibly the regatta)... isn't that what makes racing great? And you know what? I'd pay money to ride in either of these boats.. Fully geared up with double DEPENZ on. Imagine trying to run uphill across an open trampoline foiling at 48 knots with spray. WTF indeed...
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South Carolina | Holy get-out-of-town, batman. They're talking to Ernesto Bertarelli? Purveyor of poop on the cup and all it stands for?
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