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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Timbo] #264773
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Who came up with all these rules, re. the max race time,(only 40 minutes??) and 32 minutes between races, and no race can be started after 14:40 local, and and and...

I realize, "All the teams agreed to these rules..." but who came up with them? Seems pretty nutty, seems like they never wanted to get a second race off or a slow one finished!


the teams did collectively about 2 years ago.


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Television broadcast had something to do with the it also.


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Man a sports psychologist would have a field day reading the body language in the press conferences. DB looks deflated and tired. JS looks like he's staring at a juicy steak. I think at this point Oracle just wants it more.

That reach was telling. Oracle got up on the foils faster and thats what got them the nose out and then the ability to extend on that first downwind leg is paramount.

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Unbelievable. I'm still not believing it...

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Originally Posted by Undecided
Man a sports psychologist would have a field day reading the body language in the press conferences. DB looks deflated and tired. JS looks like he's staring at a juicy steak. I think at this point Oracle just wants it more.

That reach was telling. Oracle got up on the foils faster and thats what got them the nose out and then the ability to extend on that first downwind leg is paramount.


It definitely did. I thought Oracle was going to be toast on that start until they got clear of the line and were already on their foils. It's amazing how much faster they have made this boat in such a short time.

I still can't decide if I think Oracle can reclaim the lead if they get behind on the start. NZ stuck with them but couldn't get close enough to challenge Oracle....would Oracle have the same issue? The times in the past that Oracle was behind, they seemed to knock a little harder on NZ's door....I can't decide.


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"All last week, in response to questions as to whether they were down and out, Oracle Team USA skipper, Jimmy Spithill infuriated the international media by repeating the line that they only had to win one race at a time; that he was very excited by the challenge that was ahead of the team; and how positive and hard-working the team were.

Most couldn't work out if he was off his medication, or had overdosed."


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That's a really long article, but at least we know where Elton John has been hanging out during the cup...

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I was surprised that DB let Oracle off the hook just prior to the start. He got under them and I figured he'd do to them exactly what JS had done, luff them all the way up until they were nearly stopped, then bear off and go.

Jimmy kept pretty high above them, so maybe they were just too far away for that to work for ETNZ? He sure did roll over them right after the gun went off.


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DB lost overlap quickly. He didn't have a chance.


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Brilliant. Blame it on the code 0.


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Speaking of the Code 0... Did anyone else noticed that it seemed to take Oracle forever to furl their chute as they approached the bottom gate? ETNZ seemed to have theirs in for quite a while before Oracle got theirs furled.

We still need three before ETNZ gets one. Those are some long odds...

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Originally Posted by Timbo
I was surprised that DB let Oracle off the hook just prior to the start. He got under them and I figured he'd do to them exactly what JS had done, luff them all the way up until they were nearly stopped, then bear off and go.

Jimmy kept pretty high above them, so maybe they were just too far away for that to work for ETNZ? He sure did roll over them right after the gun went off.


It was too late and OTUSA was too far away... I could see it in my head because at first I thought the same thing...

but all OTUSA had to do was just get more boat speed and roll over the top in that flood current they could afford to be higher on the line.

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Originally Posted by brucat
Speaking of the Code 0... Did anyone else noticed that it seemed to take Oracle forever to furl their chute as they approached the bottom gate? ETNZ seemed to have theirs in for quite a while before Oracle got theirs furled.

We still need three before ETNZ gets one. Those are some long odds...

Mike


I thought the same thing on the furling, it appeared they almost couldn't furl that last 25 percent.

OR is on a roll, this has turned out so much better than I anticipated.

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Originally Posted by Timbo
I was surprised that DB let Oracle off the hook just prior to the start. He got under them and I figured he'd do to them exactly what JS had done, luff them all the way up until they were nearly stopped, then bear off and go.

Jimmy kept pretty high above them, so maybe they were just too far away for that to work for ETNZ? He sure did roll over them right after the gun went off.


I think Oracle managed to keep enough distance between them that if NZ tried to come up to luff Oracle, NZ would have slowed so much to have lost the overlap. When Oracle got on their foils and went into jet fighter mode a few seconds before NZ got going, that start was already lost.

I can't wait to hear the 5 things that Oracle changed that made them better. Apparently NZ has only figured out three of the five things Oracle changed. One of them is wing rake (say that three times really fast).


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This is the Most exciting sailing i have ever seen ; the
SPEED these Monsters can go is simply Amazing !!!

The highest speed i've seen on there display above the
mast was about 40Kt or so, with LOTS of 38Kt + ; anyone seen Higher ?
If so
can Ya remember in which race so i can go back and look
on the replays ?

Thanks : Bille

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Both Oracle and ETNZ have hit 46 knots measured by GPS.

I think you might see that again today.

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did i hear there is a top speed limit of 50?

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