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Upgrade from Hobie Wave #264965
09/24/13 05:24 PM
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Hi all

My son and I have a Hobie Wave that we have enjoyed sailing for about 5 years now. We are looking for something bigger and faster but still manageable single handed. What would you advise for a used boat and any idea what I might expect price wise. I live in Alberta Canada.

Thanks


John
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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #264993
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Hobie 16 perhaps.


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Welcome to the site!

A Hobie 16 can be a handful single handed in a breeze, but does offer the best option to move into racing. Used boats are cheap and plentiful.

A Hobie Getaway would be the next logical choice if racing is not a priority. Not as easy to find used, but rotomolded like the Wave and pretty tough.


Mike

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265064
09/25/13 11:59 AM
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From Albertasailing.com
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2006 NACRA 570
2013-07-19
Complete and ready to go (located at Seba Beach). Comes with E-Z loader trailer for the road, storage box on trailer, trapezes, new Hawaiian rigging, new parts and well maintained great condition with new lines, excellent sails, dolly, mast buoy to prevent “turtle-ing”
Call Phil at 780-940-5327 ( $5,900.00)


The used cat market is almost non-existant. Not that many buyers, not that many sellers.
The 570 is boardless and boomless. It will start getting to be a handful over 10kts when single handing and you probably wouldn't be able to self-rescue when you are alone.
I am not recommending for or against this boat. I just wanted to present it to you as an option. It would be a gigantic performance leap from the Wave to this 19 foot cat.



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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265203
09/25/13 05:30 PM
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What are your thoughts on the hobie 17 sport?


John
Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265211
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The soon to be released rotomolded Hobie T2 might be a good fit. http://www.hobiecat.com/sail/t2/ . It's priced the same as a Getaway.

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265215
09/25/13 06:32 PM
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anyone know anything about 17 foot flying t? I have a limited budget so I'm looking used.


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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265226
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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265229
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H-17 would be a good choice. H-16 also great, and probably more available.

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265253
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Didn't Nacra try the same thing some years back. The main problem was the weight and hull flexing.

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265261
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Here's some Hobie Getaway video.

Then stick with it until 2:00 to see the Hobie Bravo, I've never seen one, do they sell them in the USA?

That looks like a great replacement for the Opti!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1KIfgvnsjI


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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265310
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I haven't sailed a Bravo in a long time. It's been available in the U.S. for about as long as the Wave. Maybe pre-dates it. The only time I sailed it I thought it was terrible. couldn't point worth a darn and slipped sideways too much for my taste. weighs a ton for its size, too.

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: barbshort] #265315
09/26/13 02:08 PM
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I've sailed one a few time and it is a dog compared to other catamaran. It looked good around the lasers and sunfish I was sailing with but when I got around a H16 or my son sailing on the Nacra 5.2, it felt like I was dragging an anchor.


Rob V. Nacra 5.2 Panama City
Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: Redtwin] #265369
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Instead of another boat install a Hooter on the Wave. Doubles the sail area and massively more speed on almost any point of sail


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Any movement towards a hooter for class racing?


Pete Pollard
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'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.

Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: pgp] #265416
09/27/13 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pgp
Any movement towards a hooter for class racing?


It would not be well suited for short course racing and would be a nightmare tactically.

The regular Wave is great for racing with large fleets of good sailors.

Raw speed is not a good way to totally assess the virtues of a boat in my opinion.

I love my "hooter" equipped Wave, but would not find it fun around the cans.



Jack Woehrle
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Re: Upgrade from Hobie Wave [Re: JSB] #265575
10/02/13 02:28 PM
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That's a good one! There is no UPgrade from a Wave. You've arrived at the top already dude! The only thing you could do to make your situation better is to get ANOTHER wave and you and the kid hit the race circut.


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