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NAF18 Event Scheduling #26852
12/11/03 10:27 AM
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Jake Offline OP
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NAF18. I remember a bit of crazyness way back when they decided that they were going to modify the international F18 rules for North America and it alienated a couple of manufacturers and seemed to elevate some others (not to mention excluding us from global competition). During that issue, the NAF18 organizers (that's what they claimed) stayed anonymous when they were posting here on the old forum. Now there's now a big debocle over scheduling of the Tiger Nationals, F18 Nationals, and F18 North Americans (see link). I'm shocked that nobody yet seems to know who is "The Board" for NAF18 - isn't that crazy? What is going on over there? Based on the information I obtained from the following link, a couple of questions come to mind: "who's running this thing?" and "are there alterior motives or are they just indolent?"

http://pub6.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=479409156&msgid=195771&mode=

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Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: Jake] #26853
12/11/03 10:42 AM
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Hi Jake

looks like you have the old web site --

try this one http://www.naf18.com/

dooh !

Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: sail6000] #26854
12/11/03 10:49 AM
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right website - just a direct link to the current forum bypassing the main frame page. However, I probably should have linked to the main page too...thanks!

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Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: Jake] #26855
12/11/03 11:04 AM
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I am replying to this because I am on the board and I do not want to be associated with the anonymous "NAF18 Board" postings.
I questioned that post.
I still have no idea as to who on the board posted as the "NAF18 Board". If I have something to say I'll post my name with it.
And I most certainly did not give anyone on the board permission to speak for me under posts from "The NAF18 Board".

Tracie

Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: Jake] #26856
12/11/03 11:11 AM
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Hi Jake ,
thanks for all the interesting posts ,-

If you look ,-though ,- you,ll see area repesentatives ,-all very active respected racing sailors involved .

CLICK ON CONTACTS

there is an intro for each
It,s a great bunch of people

The F-18 Natl,s date in Quebec Canada -PART OF A LARGER SAILING WEEK event in that interesting great city was revised--
so there is no conflict with a Tiger event in Calif to accomodate a number of F-18 that planned to attend both events .


They deserve great credit for organizing the F-18 for NA

http://www.naf18.com/

click on NEWS
and 04 EVENTS

don,t understand the negative context of your post -
seems unusual for you ,-

winter blahs ?

Merry Christmas
Happy Holidays




Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: sail6000] #26857
12/11/03 11:28 AM
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The F-18 Natl,s date in Quebec Canada -PART OF A LARGER SAILING WEEK event in that interesting great city was revised--
so there is no conflict with a Tiger event in Calif to accomodate a number of F-18 that planned to attend both events .



The events are only two weeks apart. Sailors will still face a choice. While it is not a direct conflict, it still creates a conflict.

Tracie

Re: NAF18 Event Scheduling [Re: sail6000] #26858
12/11/03 11:34 AM
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Seems I'm guilty for not doing enough research - I based my initial post solely on the information contained in the F18 forum thread and allowed myself to be fooled by a couple of anonymous folks claiming to have more responsibility than they did. To the actual (and as it turns out "readily accessible") organizers of NAF18 - Tom Liston, Tom Korzeniewski, Mark Biggers, and the various regional representatives, I apologize for the 'conspiracy theory' tone of my previous post.

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The F-18 Natl,s date in Quebec Canada -PART OF A LARGER SAILING WEEK event in that interesting great city was revised--
so there is no conflict with a Tiger event in Calif to accomodate a number of F-18 that planned to attend both events .

Carl, I didn't follow you regarding this part of your post - so the F18NA's have changed their timing to accomodate the Tiger Nationals? It still seems to be very close (10 days) and across the entire continent.

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Both events have a conflict with F18 worlds 2004 ! [Re: Tracie] #26859
12/11/03 03:53 PM
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Both events have a conflict with F18 worlds 2004 in Italy (11 to 17 july 2004)!

So maybe both events should move ?

Wouter


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Re: Both events have a conflict with F18 worlds 2004 ! [Re: Wouter] #26860
12/11/03 04:27 PM
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We should just reserve every weekend in the summer to an F18 event, somewhere. Then the rest of us can have our events on tuesday nights.

Re: Both events have a conflict with F18 worlds 2004 ! [Re: Wouter] #26861
12/11/03 06:55 PM
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Both events have a conflict with F18 worlds 2004 in Italy (11 to 17 july 2004)!

So maybe both events should move ?

Wouter


Good idea Wouter!

Since it is your idea, you might want to contact the
ORMA - Ocean Racing Multihull Association
http://www.multis-online.com/

and the
FICO - Forum Internationale de la Course Océanique
http://www.fico-sailing.org/accueil_uk.htm

to have the sanctionned Quebec St-Malo race reschedule!


[Linked Image]
picture taken from the Sthephane l'Hote web site at http://www.stephane-lhote.com/phototheque/index.html

Personally I am eager to be able to see these boat in real life. With luck I will be able to attend this area as a spectator or as a staff.

I think that having the NAF18 championship at the same time and at the same place as the Transat is going to be great for the sport and we will get alot of media coverage for our sport.

Last summer I was luky enough to catch two 50' boat training for the Saguenay-StPierre-Vendée
http://www.saguenay-saintpierre-vendee.com/
I spoke with the crew of the 50' monohull "Top-50" that won the event in the monohull class but the most interesting experience was to see the 50' tri from Hervé Cloris. It is a very fast looking boat.



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