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#271619 04/21/14 05:25 PM 04/21/14 05:25 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Look into a Dart 18.... if you want a 16 foot class non spin boat. Alternatives are Nacra 5.0 and Mystere 5.0 would be other choices... older designs are Hobie 16 and Prindle 16.
Your spin class boats are F16s (Nacra, Falcon, Goodall??) these would be a handful in 20 with little experience.
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#271672 04/22/14 01:15 PM 04/22/14 01:15 PM |
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Posts: 190 | 16 size ? That would be Anything with symmetrical hulls and dagger-boards , will be just Fine Thank-You !!
Basically WAY better energy retention when tacking,and over-all Faster.Can't imagine Why anyone would want to Slug around with semi-symetrical hulls ?
Bille
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#271678 04/22/14 03:17 PM 04/22/14 03:17 PM |
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | Apparantly you are unware of circumstances where assymmetric or skeg hulls are the only possible solution.
Like when you sail single handed and have to start in shallow water (like seashore brake) and you have little space for manoeuvring.
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#271694 04/22/14 09:26 PM 04/22/14 09:26 PM |
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | That guy looks like he is playing air guitar by the way he is wrestling that tiller during the 3 crew sailing.
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#271699 04/23/14 12:42 AM 04/23/14 12:42 AM |
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Posts: 190 | Apparantly you are unware of circumstances where assymmetric or skeg hulls are the only possible solution.
Like when you sail single handed and have to start in shallow water (like seashore brake) and you have little space for manoeuvring. YEA -- before i got a tug-boat for the reasons you just described ; i'd put an electric motor & battery on it. Still remember the first tack i did on a prindle 16 in 3-5mph wind ; had to reverse the rudder to BACK her around, and absolutely Hated it. I won't add more because the thread said Best 16 foot Cat for 20 knots, & has no dagger boards ; but he also said he's new to sailing, and that means he'll be sailing in light wind a lot, and daggerboards make that easier. No need to Bash - it's just an opinion and i ain't trying to sell him anything ; & won't come back to this Thread. Bille | | | Re: Best 16 foot Cat for 20 knots
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#271865 04/25/14 11:29 PM 04/25/14 11:29 PM |
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | I too would vote for the Supercat 17. Its more stable than the Hobie 16, which also means a little less adventurous, but safer for single-handing.
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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#271879 04/26/14 11:46 AM 04/26/14 11:46 AM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Timbo, That is some hilarious sailing- and brings back many memories too. Someone mentioned the 'air guitar' thing? Seeing that had me ROTFL!
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#271896 04/27/14 07:39 PM 04/27/14 07:39 PM |
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 4 Ron Holm
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Posts: 4 | Hobie 16 all the way... All of its faults are what make it so hilariously fun to sail.. The other comparable stuff just doesn't offer the same experience, and once you start to master it the challenge and skill it takes to get it around a race course with some of the really fast H16 sailors will provide a semmingly endless learning experiece
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#272044 04/30/14 11:28 PM 04/30/14 11:28 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 493 Minnesota Jeff Peterson
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | I agree the Hobie 16 is the more FUN boat. But the guy specifically said 'No pitchpoling'. The characteristics he described are a perfect match for the Supercat 17. The ride is stable (and dull). Not only is the Hobie 16 fun, it is inexpensive for old used boats. Its a great starter boat, if you have a partner to get you familiar with it, before attempting single-handing it.
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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