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race monster in Texel cat race #273472
06/26/14 09:47 AM
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Mischa Heemskerk is tuning his special designed M20 cat on the beach just before the ROUND-TEXEL starts saturday.

Skip all the dutch talking. The cat is 4 meter beam, has each rudder doubled! (one for shallow water and one with wingtips for deep water). So you see them sailing with what looks small rudders up. The wingtips on the long rudderblades are flexible.

Finally the daggerboards can be controlled during sailing by a rope system.




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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273473
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I saw it sailing yesterday and it did seem to fly quite well (he was way in the distance).
Up close the boat looks very well thought out.
Tomorrow the new foiling Nacra 20 and Phantom will also arrive at Texel so should be a good show.
According to the forecast there will be around 15kts during the race which should be enough to keep them foiling.

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273474
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Nice Peter Pan at 3:27 smile


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273488
06/27/14 12:15 AM
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Awesome! Foiling is definately happening, but I keep in mind Buckminster Fuller adage "evolution makes many false starts". This M20 on steroids definately looks awesome! laugh

How many footstraps each side.

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #273489
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Originally Posted by Rolf_Nilsen
Awesome! "evolution makes many false starts".

Yep and that will get these beasts into our price range sooner, I wouldn't mind having to put up with that boat at half price


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: JeffS] #273494
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Krikey those daggars are Huge-a! (to coin that Fusillo car dealer)

Team Flying Dutchman... classic smile

And if as you say the foiling cats will come down in price, what will that do to the used non-foiling boats that hit the market?


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273497
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People are still sailing Dart15s. No worries about the used boat market.

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #273500
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I was hoping to get Matt's existing F16 for super-cheap when he makes a foiling version... smile


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273501
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He can probably offer you a "nice price for you, my friend" deal anyway wink

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: rehmbo] #273517
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Originally Posted by rehmbo
Nice Peter Pan at 3:27 smile


He hit the sandbar. Instant stopping power.


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273518
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Noticed that in another comment - perhaps on FB? Also noticed that the daggers seemed to be relatively unscathed. Close up inspection might be a different story (as well as the dagger trunks).


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273523
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Just before and during the start





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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273524
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In terms of line honours....
1. Peter Vink/Mischa de Munk..........................Nacra F20 Carbon FCS (full foiling)
2. Xander Pols/Stefan Dubbeldaum..................Nacra F20 Carbon (curved boards)
3. Alex Noorstrand/Oscar Eelkman Rooda........Nacra F20 Carbon (curved boards)
4. Mischa Heemskerk/Eduard Zanen.................M20 Special (full foiling)

Handicap results not out yet.....

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273525
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Results on handicap....
1st Nacra 17
2nd Nacra 17
3rd Nacra Infusion

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: NacramanUK] #273527
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[Linked Image]

Nacra F20 from first finisher Vink just after the start


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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273534
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Awesome photos on the Round Texel facebook site with great shots of tidy and untidy boats
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...1.203508649661856&type=1&theater


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Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273539
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Amazing photo-serie.

I think the beachcat world has changed with this race.


(I'm very proud that this happened in my small country. )






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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273549
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The foiling looks cools, but i'm wondering about the beach cat aspect. It doesn't look like you could actually run one of those right up on the beach if there was some surf. It looks like the boards are still partly below the bottom of the hull even when they are all the way up?
Did anyone see them land in the small surf?

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Originally Posted by jollyrodgers
The foiling looks cools, but i'm wondering about the beach cat aspect. It doesn't look like you could actually run one of those right up on the beach if there was some surf. It looks like the boards are still partly below the bottom of the hull even when they are all the way up?
Did anyone see them land in the small surf?

I think the boards are about 10-15cm below the hull, you shouldnt sail a cat straight onto the beach anyway unless you have to anyway.
Thats what cattrax are for :-)

There a lot more pics from the race over here: http://bootinbeeld.nl/index.php?page=galerij/sites/2014/rot14/rot14.php

Re: race monster in Texel cat race [Re: northsea junkie] #273575
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One of these 4 photos shows the F20 FCS sitting on a trolley with boards in place......
https://www.facebook.com/NacraSaili...54/10152521510598554/?type=1&theater

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