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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Timbo] #277888
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Nice drone work! Thanks for posting.

In that second video, at about 1:19, was that a Hobie Adventure Island? Looks like the two of them are pedaling pretty good in addition to the sail. I've often thought about getting one of those but haven't ever seen one under sail!

Timbo, I own a couple of the "pedal" kayaks and absolutely love them. I can't believe you don't own one, especially living near the water. Great leg workout if you push it hard, great fishing platform, great for river trips, camping, etc. Push one pedal forward and the flippers lay flat up against the boat bottom which makes navigating shallows simple. I'm not a fan of the sails and mine never get used.

Get yourself one of the many Mirage kayaks. You'll love it.

http://www.hobiecat.com/




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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: ] #277889
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There's a buttload of them in your getto.
Timbo's shopping list


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: P.M.] #277891
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Originally Posted by P.M.
There's a buttload of them in your getto.
Timbo's shopping list


Thanks for the info Philip. What about the 'tramps' between the main hull and the amas? Seems like some of them have them, others don't, are they an add on type option or do they all have them, but some people just don't put them on?

I've got a good canoe right next to my dock for fishing, and with the Hobie 14, Prindle 18 and Blade, just haven't got around to buying yet another boat that will sit unused 90% of the time.

I was thinking of something like that Adventure Island tandem trimaran, with tramps, so I could take a couple dogs out with me. They love the canoe but won't sit still and are always trying to tip it over while I'm standing up, fly casting out of it! They also love the Prindle, but keep sliding off the tramp every time I fly a hull too high!



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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Timbo] #277892
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trampolines are an option on them. They wouldn't be hard to make either.


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I was thinking of just adding some out rigger type floats to the canoe, I saw a project in Wooden Boat magazine several years ago where a guy built two amas out of very thin plywood, built up some very cool curved akas out of 1/4" strips of 2x2 bent around a jig he'd made.

The whole thing attached to his canoe with clamps, so it was easy to remove...but then there's the sail issue...


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Timbo] #277900
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Get a J-24 with training wheels and be done with it Timbo! Works for us... and the dog.

Trucking along at 15 kts singlehanded jib-reaching Sat. Had to throttle back for fear of losing one of the grommets who were using the trampoline as a bounce house.


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: waterbug_wpb] #277910
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Pretty cool eh?

[Linked Image]

The Island series has been very popular for us. Changes to seats and hull design make the Adventure Island even better than before.



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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: ] #277914
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Matt, that is pretty cool, no doubt. Love the square top!

Is there a trampoline option on that one? And I think I saw a two seat version too? Or is that only on the old one?


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: waterbug_wpb] #277915
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Get a J-24 with training wheels and be done with it Timbo! Works for us... and the dog.

Trucking along at 15 kts singlehanded jib-reaching Sat. Had to throttle back for fear of losing one of the grommets who were using the trampoline as a bounce house.


I'd love to, but it's a money thing right now, with two kids still in college and the two with Masters Degrees unemployed, and I'm feeding 9 horses at over $2000 a month...I could buy the Porsche and the Corsair if not for those phucking horses!
I did get out on the Blade for two hours today, finally got both warm air (88) and good wind, 15-20, lots of fun blowing by the pontoon boats going downwind under kite!

Matt, does Hobie make a Spinnaker option for the Adventure Island, or should I bring an umbrella?


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Timbo] #277922
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We have trampoline sets for all Islands and yes... a Tandem Island too.

[Linked Image]

Hobie Mirage Tandem Island

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Can you furl the sail around the mast from the **** while on the water?

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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: ThunderMuffin] #277927
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Yes, from either seat by running the line aft. You can reef partially too. The sheets and rudder controls are also at both seats.


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: ] #277929
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Thanks for the info Matt, I'll tell my wife I'm going to buy her one for her birthday! Then she HAS to go out on it with me, right?

And if she won't go, I've got 5 dogs who will! That's why I need the tramps.

Getting back to the original topic, what happened after the Coast Guard showed up? Was the race completely shut down? I haven't heard about any position updates so I am assuming it was called off?


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Apparently an O'Day and a number of kayakers had to be rescued. No issues in the Island class I am told (29 Hobie's including a Getaway and a Hobie 16 were registered... most of them were Islands).The event was cancelled at the demand of the Coast Guard and racers were informed either on the water or at CP 1. A number of the guys are still going on un-officialy. Penguinman, who is our lead engineer, on a 2015 Hobie Mirage Adventure Island is at the last check point and about a day from Key Largo I believe.

The Islands are prefect for this event. Pedal, sail, reef, furl, disassemble, portage, stable, carry gear and pretty fast in all modes. Pedaling is what really makes it work as a product and REALLY work in this event. The MiragDrive works very well. You can have to paddle/pedal literally all day at times in the event. No other craft can do that comfortably and efficiently like the Islands.


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: mmiller] #277947
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+1 on that for versatility, definitely.

If you could add "Jet Packs", laser beams, and a blender I think you'd have everything I need...


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I've got 2 Adventure Islands. Absolutely love them. Trampolines and all. Dogs and kids love riding on the trampolines.


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Timbo] #277950
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Speaking of drone footage, looks like when you piss off the Coast Guard they share with their friends. FAA.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-says-you-cant-post-drone-videos-on-youtube


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Gotta love it when the Friendly Aviation Administration gets involved.


After all, its not easy, banging your head against some mad buggers wall.
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The FAA can suck my balls. It's supposed to be a free goddamn country. What is done in airspace not used by the FAA is none of their f@#king business.


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Re: Everglades Challange 2015 [Re: Karl_Brogger] #277954
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
The FAA can suck my balls. It's supposed to be a free goddamn country. What is done in airspace not used by the FAA is none of their f@#king business.


It is still some of their airspace being debated...but I agree that this is going wayyy overboard. Looking organizations like the AMYA, I think they've done a pretty good job at keeping things respectfully safe. In their case, though, they're a little more limited in that the model airplanes generally require more open space and some slightly specialized grounds to operate. The drones have really opened the door to use everywhere.

We do need to respect the fact that these things can bloody somebody if things went wrong. They can also be a threat to aviation in a lot of ways we've barely discovered...I've heard tale of photography helicopters having near misses at regattas (though I'm sure the pilots would be prone to exaggeration in that situation just from the seriousness of it)

I think the answer is an organization that can approach the FAA in a methodical approach. Requiring licensing, or membership, in that organization with different membership level based on skill demonstration might help too. Provide members insurance like the AMYA does would go a long way too.

We'll get it fixed - I just hope it doesn't take a bunch of expensive litigation to get the current FAA regulations brought back to earth...but there are drone supporters that are working on it and waiting for the chance to make a legal stand.


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