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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Parker] #280316
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Originally Posted by Jake
The Ideal America's Cup

I think Jobson really misses the mark in this article. Trickle down is far from dead and while I'm pretty miffed at not being able to see the current series easily it's hard to deny the foiling madness the last America's Cup ignited in the world of multihulls.

The problem, in my opinion, is all about the money. (isn't it always?). When you have some campaigns with a limitless pile of cash against other teams that spend as much time trying to find sponsorship as they do running their team, the result is always going to be skewed and boring to watch.


Slightly nasally voice????

I agree with very few of his points. Having the gall to compare himself to Cronkite, and in the same breath use Cronkite's image to disparage the event that put him (Jobson) on the map and continues to afford him a career, is simply astounding.

He was way over his head during the live broadcasts in SF. Have the decency to stay in the booth and give the intros and outtros. Leave the sailing coverage for people who are current.

Mike

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Originally Posted by brucat



I agree with very few of his points. Having the gall to compare himself to Cronkite, and in the same breath use Cronkite's image to disparage the event that put him (Jobson) on the map and continues to afford him a career, is simply astounding.

He was way over his head during the live broadcasts in SF. Have the decency to stay in the booth and give the intros and outtros. Leave the sailing coverage for people who are current.

Mike


I agree, Gary is a tool.


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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by brucat



I agree with very few of his points. Having the gall to compare himself to Cronkite, and in the same breath use Cronkite's image to disparage the event that put him (Jobson) on the map and continues to afford him a career, is simply astounding.

He was way over his head during the live broadcasts in SF. Have the decency to stay in the booth and give the intros and outtros. Leave the sailing coverage for people who are current.

Mike


I agree, Gary is a tool.


GJ was making some correct calls by the end of ac34. Unfortunately he talks like a 6th grader reading a report to the class. The extreme sailing series has a woman with a nice English accent as a co-anchor. Seems like a no brainer, but the ac guys haven't figured that one out yet.

Why isn't there a thread about the little cup? It's in September.

Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Ingram] #280320
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
I agree, Gary is a tool.


Yes, it did sound as if he was announcing a high-school football game and couldn't remember the players at times...

But he's managed to wring a career out of that so I guess props to him for being smart enough to do so.


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A continuing failure from ACEA to get this right.
All you need to know to follow Round 2 this weekend

How to Watch Around the World

For America’s Cup fans around the world, there are a number of different ways to follow the high-octane racing in Gothenburg. Many of the international television broadcast rights holders will show live racing Saturday and Sunday, others will have the highlight show. Networks like BT Sport (UK), Canal+ (FRA), CCTV5+ (CHN) and FOX Sports (AUS) are among those to show live racing. NBC/NBCSN in the US will show highlights.

For live content on the AC App for mobile devices, the following territorial restrictions apply:

1) No Live Feed or Live Audio, but with On-Board Cameras and second screen experience
United Kingdom and Ireland, Australia, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Mexico, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela

2) No Live Feed or Live Audio and No On-Board Cameras
France and Monaco

Sweden:
TV12 & TV4 Play
August 29 12:30pm – 14:30pm
August 30 1:00pm – 3:00pm
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App

UK and Ireland:
BT Sport Europe, live, August 29, 11:30
BT Sport Europe, live, August 30, 11:30
Repeats on BT Sport 1 and BT Sport 2, check local listings
BBC Red Button - Highlights, August 31, 19:30
Also “second screen” experience available live for mobile devices on the AC App (no live race feed).

Bermuda:
ZFB – Live on Saturday and Sunday
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App

USA:
NBC Sport Channel – Sept 4 at 10pm (Pacific Time)
Additional broadcast on NBC regional affiliate channels to be confirmed.
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App

China:
August 29 23:30pm (Beijing time)
August 30 22:30pm (Beijing time)
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App

Australia:
Broadcast times on Fox Sports TBC
Also “second screen” (only) live on the AC App

France, Monaco, Andorra, French-speaking Switzerland, Mauritius, DOMTOM and sub-Saharan Africa (not South Africa):
Live for both days on Canal+ Décalé: 1100 – 1230 GMT.
Repeat on Canal+ Sport 29.08: 2214 – 2344 GMT; 30.08: 1710 – 1840 GMT
No live app and no second screen experience in France/Monaco

Germany:
Live for mobile devices on the AC App

Italy:
Live for mobile devices on the AC App

Japan:
Live for mobile devices on the AC App

New Zealand:
Live for mobile devices on the AC App

Poland:
Saturday, 29/08 Canal+ Sport2, 13:00
Sunday, 30/08 Canal+ Sport, 13:00
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App
Central and South America & Caribbean:
Please note all times are Eastern Standard Time (New York Time)
ESPN Brazil – Mon, Sept 14 at 4 pm
ESPN+ Brazil – Wed, Sept 16 at 10 am
ESPN Caribbean – Wed, Sept 16 at 1 pm (Also live for mobile devices on the AC app)
ESPN3 Latin North – Thu, Sept 17 at 11 am
Also “second screen” experience available live for mobile devices on the AC App (no live race feed).

Portugal:
SPORT TV will broadcast both races live.
Sat 29/08 – 12:00 SPORT.TV2 Live
Sun 30/08 – 12:00 SPORT.TV2 Live
(All Portuguese time)
Also live for mobile devices on the AC App


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WTF,

Sub-Sahara Africa can get live broadcast of the AC but sitting in the good ole US of A, I have to watch HIGHLIGHTS?

Who is the clown car captain of this sh*t show?

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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin
WTF,

Sub-Sahara Africa can get live broadcast of the AC but sitting in the good ole US of A, I have to watch HIGHLIGHTS?

Who is the clown car captain of this sh*t show?


LOL, before I saw your post I was going to say the same about Poland.

Larry Ellison have you lost your F$$king mind?


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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: catman] #280342
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Clearly it's NBCSN (NBS Sports Network) who is screwing the success of the AC. NBCSN acquired the US rights back in February but have chosen to bury the AC by giving us only poorly presented highlights on the Tuesday following the events. They choose to show the Tour de France and NASCAR. I scoured their website to find a "contact us" link to complain but could not find anything. I wrote to Gary Jobson and he wrote back saying tersely, " I am not part of it." Something's going on behind the scenes on this one.

Sad, given the wild popularity of AC34.

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Maybe Gary read our comments?

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Originally Posted by David Parker
Clearly it's NBCSN (NBS Sports Network) who is screwing the success of the AC. NBCSN acquired the US rights back in February but have chosen to bury the AC by giving us only poorly presented highlights on the Tuesday following the events. They choose to show the Tour de France and NASCAR. I scoured their website to find a "contact us" link to complain but could not find anything. I wrote to Gary Jobson and he wrote back saying tersely, " I am not part of it." Something's going on behind the scenes on this one.

Sad, given the wild popularity of AC34.


When you look at how this whole thing has been managed I doubt NBCSN could be at fault.

By the way, how do you get "tersely" from GJ comment? Sounds factual and straight to the point.

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Originally Posted by brucat
Maybe Gary read our comments?

Mike


Ha! Good one, oh wait are you being serious?


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On September 19 Gary Jobson will be the keynote speaker at our annual black tie banquet for Dunedin Youth Sailing here in Dunedin, FL. I'll try to ask him publicly why the America's Cup will not be televised live in the USA. I know it's not his fault but I'd like to get his take on the politics of it all.

You're all welcome to come. Just put up the $80 for dinner and put on your tuxedo.
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by brucat
Maybe Gary read our comments?

Mike


Ha! Good one, oh wait are you being serious?


Not really, but you literally never know who's looking here (or any open forum for that matter).

Mike

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More puzzling decision making from America's Cup organisers

Can someone explain how this helps deliver value to America's Cup event sponsors, or the team sponsors or the audience?

Please put you hand up if you think this is good business practice?


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I honestly unsubscribed from my first Youtube subscribed channel ever yesterday with TheAmericasCup. The drivel they are posting is worthless. I'm baffled why they wouldn't even post week old or months old racing? The "highlights" are about 1 minute 40 seconds of music and quick shots of the grounds and people and about 20 seconds of racing team centric stuff that has nothing to do with boating. Hell, one of them I watched yesterday, hoping to see some racing, showed some team new zealand guys playing rugby inside one of their tents. Whatever they are doing with the available media for this event here in the US is absolutely awful. It's so bad that it must be intentional.


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perhaps their plan is to drive those folks with the money to show up in person (and drop serious coin) to watch the events?

The rest of us can eat .... uh, cake?

Perhaps the organizers finally admitted to themselves they can't make this profitable bringing it to the (cheapskate) masses, so they'll change course and focus the effort on hobknobbing with the uber-wealthy (who could possibly put a team together sometime in the future?)

For the rest of us who still look for carbon/foil porn there is always the C-class cup...


Jay

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Speaking of sponsor fulfillment and lessons learned...

I was in the 99 restaurant in Newport (over by the rotary) a few weeks ago, and noticed a beautiful, framed image from the Newport stopover during the last ACWS. The picture is of a fleet race start, and was clearly taken after Thursday, because ETNZ had a lot of clear panels on the wing.

At the time, I wondered why they didn't have a spare wing for each team, or at least the properly branded covers (they damaged their wing during the capsize and day-long righting attempts).

They took necessary panels from the wing of the Red Bull boat which was there for audiences to see up close ashore, stripped the Red Bull branded covers, and re-covered with clear skins.

As this mishap occurred on Thursday, their sponsors missed out on three full days (out of four) of televised coverage!!! Not to mention, eons worth of images (how many decades worth of AC pictures do we see walking around in Newport?).

Do you think they learned anything from that?

Mike

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The full replay file is being treated like private property. It would be hard to capture from a phone live during the event too. Then after the event it goes to the editing room.
Videos of people talking about the race abound, but i am mostly interested in seeing the races in full.
The "takeaway" is a very successful sales technique, but this seems like they are protecting their property from interested parties.

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