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NEWBEE HELP #280926
10/28/15 08:24 AM
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I just bought my first sailboat (Nacra 6.0) I have only sailed a dozen times but I am HOOKED! My son is fifteen and went to camp and experienced sailing on a Sun fisher I told him about Catamarans and this past summer we went out on a boat that we paid someone for each day. My question is I need a video that will give me instruction on how to raise my mast properly and sails and all the other little checks, Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Sailhawk

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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280927
10/28/15 08:46 AM
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Welcome to the Dark Side! Congratulations on the Nacra 6.0, great boat and fast! You might be able to find a "Nacra Mast Raising" video on You Tube, but where are you located? If you can get to any local catamaran regatta with your boat, there will be lots of sailors there who can show you how to do it the easiest way.

That's a big, heavy stick, but it can be done alone if you know how, much easier with one helper to pin it while you hold it upright.

Are you in the USA or elsewhere?

Here's a You Tube video of an F18 mast raising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6y2PBdAi6U

Do NOT do it this way! It should never take 6 people and a ladder to raise your mast!!

Here's one with only two people, but still they are using the trailer winch to pull it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO70lkV3V8g


Put it on the beach first, and then hook up the side stays. After you pin the base to the forward beam, put one guy on the tramp while the other gets back at the mast tip and just walks it up with his hands up over his head until he gets to the rear beam then the guy on the tramp can lift it to upright. Then the guy at the back runs around to the front and pins the forestay to the bridle.

I've done my Inter 20 mast alone many times, but I always put the boat pointing down a big hill in my back yard, so once the mast is up it will stay up by itself, while I pin the forestay.


Done. Takes maybe 3 minutes.



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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280932
10/28/15 01:44 PM
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around here, we turn our boats around on the trailer and use the trailer mast yoke as the "ladder"




it's much better if you have helpers but you can use your spin halyard (tied to your furler) to hold the mast in place if your solo



Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Timbo] #280934
10/28/15 01:51 PM
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man, I would have kept that video to myself. That's a terrifying view of a lot of people who have no idea how to step a mast.

I had a 6.0NA for a while and it is indeed quite an awesome boat. The mast is definitely on the heavy side. I heaved mine up manually most of the time with the help of one other person as Tim describes but I did eventually switch to a winch on the trailer after a bout of back pain kept me out of a regatta or two.


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Jake] #280935
10/28/15 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
man, I would have kept that video to myself.


But if we all did that, what would be the point of YouTube? smile

between cat videos, the flying squirrel suit, and that halloween party "incident" at Hiram's Haul years back.... what's NOT to post on YouTube?


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280937
10/28/15 03:11 PM
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"After you pin the base to the forward beam, put one guy on the tramp while the other gets back at the mast tip and just walks it up with his hands up over his head until he gets to the rear beam then the guy on the tramp can lift it to upright. Then the guy at the back runs around to the front and pins the forestay to the bridle."
Couple more tips:
check for powerlines first.
tie a very long line to the fore stay and have the helper pull on that after the guy on the tramp gets the mast to his shoulders. The person pulling on the line can almost raise the mast with that kind of leverage if they stand out in front of the boat and the line is not too rough on the hands. The person on the tramp is just guiding it up.

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Jake] #280938
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Originally Posted by Jake
That's a terrifying view of a lot of people who have no idea how to step a mast.


what do you mean that's a view of a lot of people?

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280940
10/28/15 04:00 PM
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I think he was talking about the very first video I posted, the way NOT to raise a mast! It looks like they are doing it in a storm, with lots of wind, another big No-No when trying to step your mast!


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Thanks for all the feedback on the mast, I've been reading about auto rotating and it does not sound good. I have never hoisted the sails on my own so I'm just a little cautious. I'm in north central Florida Sailhawk

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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280945
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Sailhawk, check your PMs


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280946
10/28/15 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailhawk
Thanks for all the feedback on the mast, I've been reading about auto rotating and it does not sound good. I have never hoisted the sails on my own so I'm just a little cautious. I'm in north central Florida Sailhawk


Auto rotating is great, you just have to learn how to use it.


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Timbo] #280949
10/28/15 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I think he was talking about the very first video I posted, the way NOT to raise a mast! It looks like they are doing it in a storm, with lots of wind, another big No-No when trying to step your mast!


I was. I had to quit watching it!


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Timbo] #280954
10/29/15 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I think he was talking about the very first video I posted, the way NOT to raise a mast! It looks like they are doing it in a storm, with lots of wind, another big No-No when trying to step your mast!


Got it
Yea that is terrible on so many levels
Having little kids pulling on guy lines, a yahoo on a movable staircase (who would surly get creamed if the mast fell), running the guy line through the mast yoke.... wow

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280955
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This is how the majority of people raise their mast, its quite easy to do with two people (fast forward to 2:05):
https://youtu.be/d1SkvKeY180?t=124

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Tony_F18] #280956
10/29/15 09:17 AM
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I did have to laugh at Timbo's video for a number of reasons, but that one guy who ran over to attach the forestay and BOING! right into the spinnaker bridle reminded me of how many times I did that...


Jay

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: ] #280957
10/29/15 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by Timbo
I think he was talking about the very first video I posted, the way NOT to raise a mast! It looks like they are doing it in a storm, with lots of wind, another big No-No when trying to step your mast!


Got it
Yea that is terrible on so many levels
Having little kids pulling on guy lines, a yahoo on a movable staircase (who would surly get creamed if the mast fell), running the guy line through the mast yoke.... wow

They just needed a few more people grin

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Sailhawk] #280964
10/29/15 10:48 AM
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Jake, your PM box is full smile


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Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: Tony_F18] #280965
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Tony F18 That was great any info on the sails Thanks Sailhawk

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It may be a little easier if they plant the tip of the mast in the ground. Then all use ladders to swivel the catamaran 31' in the air. and then use a crane to revert it back to the normal position (hulls down)....

Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by Timbo
I think he was talking about the very first video I posted, the way NOT to raise a mast! It looks like they are doing it in a storm, with lots of wind, another big No-No when trying to step your mast!


Got it
Yea that is terrible on so many levels
Having little kids pulling on guy lines, a yahoo on a movable staircase (who would surly get creamed if the mast fell), running the guy line through the mast yoke.... wow

They just needed a few more people grin

Re: NEWBEE HELP [Re: ] #280971
10/29/15 02:39 PM
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or run with it like a pole vaulter... Just don't miss the mast ball...


Jay

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