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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: brucat] #281847
02/11/16 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat
Ding,

I agree with everything you wrote regarding "fear" of capsizing, but your PHRF crewing post could have been copied from any one of 10,000 whiner posts from SA. Speaking of which, does that place still exist?

Mike


Mike, it was a meant in good humor... except for the sandwiches and beer part! For the record I do enjoy sailing on a leaner from time to time. And my post wasn't a whiner post it was freaking hilarious!


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281848
02/11/16 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I don't understand the fear of capsizing. Windy days you're f-ing soaked anyways. Swimming is only marginally wetter.


For the most part agree, but I've been a part of some nasty pitchpoles and I've hit hard things at speed on my way to splash down and it has left more than just a mark. The crew definitely gets the short end of crashes because the skipper uses the crew as cushion between the hard bits far too often. I've also been in a situation where I've said to myself... it might be time for the knife and once sorted thought to myself 'that could have gone badly for me'. So, there are times when it's not just about getting wet.


I got into this from motocross and doing really stupid stuff on sportbikes. My view of danger is a bit skewed. I've only had a serious oh crap moment in a sailboat wrapped in a sheet as the tramp started to come down on me. I've had more moments where I thought death was certain than I care to remember. Sailboats have been bumps and bruises for me.


I'm boatless.
Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281850
02/11/16 04:58 PM
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My only point was, in the video, with all the great sailing shots available, some nit wit editor (probably a mono-slug cave man cat hater) decided to include a shot of a H16 trying to be righted, poorly. For any novice sailor, or potential crew/wife/girlfriend/kid who might have been watching that piece, they probably had the same thought I had when I raced Mono's, before I got into cats:

Who would want to do that? Looks like you do more swimming than sailing...


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281855
02/11/16 06:23 PM
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Yes, SA is there and John Casey has great interview with Randy Smyth today.

How cool is a scaring Kevin Costner, capsizing a 40 foot cat in The Thomas Crown Affair and stuffing the bows on a 110 footer in the Southern Ocean.

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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281857
02/11/16 07:02 PM
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I bring Subway samiches, fresh fruit, and water for my J22 crew for Saturday club races. You probably wouldn't care for my beer rule though. Beer happens only after the boat is put away after racing for two reasons. A) the boat is tidied up, secured in the slip, and the deck tent snapped on REALLY fast after racing. B) that first beer after all of that is sooo good.


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Jake] #281858
02/11/16 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
I bring Subway samiches, fresh fruit, and water for my J22 crew for Saturday club races. You probably wouldn't care for my beer rule though. Beer happens only after the boat is put away after racing for two reasons. A) the boat is tidied up, secured in the slip, and the deck tent snapped on REALLY fast after racing. B) that first beer after all of that is sooo good.


A rule I could easily live with. Subway would be huge step up from air sandwiches. :-)


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281861
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I have to stop taking you guys so seriously sometimes (and vice-versa)....

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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Jake] #281866
02/12/16 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake
I bring Subway samiches, fresh fruit, and water for my J22 crew for Saturday club races. You probably wouldn't care for my beer rule though. Beer happens only after the boat is put away after racing for two reasons. A) the boat is tidied up, secured in the slip, and the deck tent snapped on REALLY fast after racing. B) that first beer after all of that is sooo good.


Fruit? You got Grey Poupon or something? You eat with your pinky up? Sheesh...

Beef Jerky unless it's an overnight distance at which the cabin becomes a nuclear hazard.

With a bucket as a head, think "low residue" food like astronaut training.

I mostly agree with Jake on the beer thing... maybe one on the way to the dock, but I usually don't pound them until the boat's put away. There's enough drunk boaters at the ramp to require my senses be sharp...


Jay

Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281867
02/12/16 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Subway would be huge step up from air sandwiches. :-)


That's it.... you're getting Vegimite (whatever that is...)


Jay

Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Jake] #281871
02/12/16 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake
I bring Subway samiches, fresh fruit, and water for my J22 crew for Saturday club races. You probably wouldn't care for my beer rule though. Beer happens only after the boat is put away after racing for two reasons. A) the boat is tidied up, secured in the slip, and the deck tent snapped on REALLY fast after racing. B) that first beer after all of that is sooo good.


We bring 5 beers for the ride in on the J24. In a small cooler down by the keel for big events. (includes the Worlds in Newport last year, which could be an hour+ sail/motor to and from the course).

For club and smaller races we may have a couple extras.

We dry sail the boat during the week, so have to hoist it in and out each time we race.

We never have a problem with putting the boat away or any of the other associated chores.

Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Tom Korz] #281872
02/12/16 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Korz

We never have a problem with putting the boat away or any of the other associated chores.


We don't have a "problem" putting the boat away but it was often that we're sitting/standing by the half put away boat wondering why we're always the last ones to leave. grin


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Jake] #281880
02/12/16 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
we're sitting/standing by the half put away boat wondering why we're always the last ones to leave. grin


That's not a problem here with no-see-ums and now Zhika virus...

Kind of like a zombie movie: "Be back before dark...or else"


Jay

Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: Jake] #281881
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Originally Posted by Jake
We don't have a "problem" putting the boat away but it was often that we're sitting/standing by the half put away boat wondering why we're always the last ones to leave. grin


Wow. If I only had a dollar for every time I've been guilty of that, even without drinking (I hate leaving regattas and friends)!

Actually, I've never "wondered" why I was last, just never cared. My wife, on the other hand...

Mike

Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: brucat] #281882
02/12/16 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat
Originally Posted by Jake
We don't have a "problem" putting the boat away but it was often that we're sitting/standing by the half put away boat wondering why we're always the last ones to leave. grin


Wow. If I only had a dollar for every time I've been guilty of that, even without drinking (I hate leaving regattas and friends)!

Actually, I've never "wondered" why I was last, just never cared. My wife, on the other hand...

Mike


But it's so much more painful to finish putting the boat away after all that. Better to just get it done and THEN spend the time with the people.


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Re: Charlotte Harbor Regatta makes the local news [Re: David Ingram] #281886
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That's one way to look at it, I guess...

Some of these people I only get to see once or twice a year anymore. The boat can wait.

Mike

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