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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283276
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Wow, USA tied for 11th, one point out of top 10!

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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283279
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Looking mathematically hopeless for the podium, but they qualified for the medal race.

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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283280
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Ha... old Tornado guy takes 5 point lead into medal race... (Way to go Santiago!) Experience seems to matter when the conditions vary as much as they have in Rio.

Making the medal round is a real accomplishment for Bora and Louisa! Johnny and Charlie finished 6th in their first go at the Olympics.

we will see how it goes in 49ners... but it looks like you need 8 years of experience to be in medal contention in the skiffs and cats.... The US is just gonna have to find a way to start the top sailors earlier! Collegiate All American does not move the ball far enough!


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283281
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Ok, what happened to Waterhouse?

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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283284
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Notice the Tracing devises attached to each mast. At least there supper tiny and not in a place where they would disturb flow.

Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283285
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Pretty sure that's for the onboard camera that can take all those beautiful live videos we see. Oh. wait...


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: rehmbo] #283287
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Nacra medal race in 15 minutes! USA got a bronze in Finn!!!!


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: Mark Schneider] #283289
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HOLY COW Santiago takes two stupid penalties.... still comes back to 6th.... a point ahead of Australia...
Two bronzes and a gold.... Tornado's and N17s

Bora pulls a 4th in the medal race 8th overall equipment fails cost them a bunch.


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: rehmbo] #283290
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That makes sense . Still not ideal for a sail boat. At least I heard what happen from others or it would probably be tomorrow
before I would know.

Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: Mark Schneider] #283291
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What happened in races 3 and 5 for the US?


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: rehmbo] #283293
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Originally Posted by rehmbo
Pretty sure that's for the onboard camera that can take all those beautiful live videos we see. Oh. wait...

I think that there where only a few working cameras, the rest where weighted dummies.
Not very impressed with the coverage this olympics, there was only 1 media course and even that was difficult to watch frown
Impressive win by Lange especially when you consider he's 54!

Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283294
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Might have washed the sails in 5 I think. 3 I don't know

Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283295
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Wow, what a close finish. Gold, 77 points, silver and bronze tiebreaker (78 each), ONE POINT behind gold!!!!!

Trapeze harness takes you out of the most important regatta of your life? How does that happen? Or are the online posts wrong?

Mike

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It wasn't the harness. Trap lines broke at the top...

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BYOB, correct (no redress)?

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Looks like the woman's 470 medal race on Wed should be pressure packed with lots of teams in the hunt.. The US is in the medal hunt and could go big... or go home with nada.



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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Ha... old Tornado guy takes 5 point lead into medal race... (Way to go Santiago!) Experience seems to matter when the conditions vary as much as they have in Rio.

Making the medal round is a real accomplishment for Bora and Louisa! Johnny and Charlie finished 6th in their first go at the Olympics.

we will see how it goes in 49ners... but it looks like you need 8 years of experience to be in medal contention in the skiffs and cats.... The US is just gonna have to find a way to start the top sailors earlier! Collegiate All American does not move the ball far enough!


And there's not even a Multihull in collegiate racing, so other than starting in Multihull in a club setting, like Taylor and Mathew, there's not going to be a lot of depth with years of experience (young) there.


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #283310
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Well.... the USA scored a bronze in Finn...... much better then Weymouth. Today s medal races were entertaining!!!! Still not sure the US has figured out how to build and coach up sailors in the pipeline..

It will never be like glory days of US dominance... I think the key would be for the US to invest in great coaches at both the development team and the Olympic Team.


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From SA.... Team_GBR wrote this
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The "formula" is very easy to articulate but harder to execute. You put in place a properly planned junior pathway, with the juniors being trained from the start to have the right mental attitude. You integrate them with the main Olympic squad as soon as is practical, so the juniors get exposure to how the whole olympic team system works. You instill an attitude that selection for the games is a small part of the journey (it is never a main goal) and you focus on one thing only - winning. If you focus on anything less, you will never reach your goals. Almost all olympic sports in the UK set a higher qualifying standard than required by the IOC. Support to go for younger athletes in order to "gain experience" is only given if that athlete has a long history of winning at every junior level and is at the top for their age group.



All of this is a pretty rigid system, but it works. What makes it hard to stay at the top is that other countries can see what you are doing and emulate your programs. This happened to the Australians, with their AIS system. It worked, but they sat back and didn't continue to improve it and didn't succession plan, so when some of their best coaches were poached, there was nobody to replace them with the right level of knowledge.


I think the key is getting the high level coaches setting the pace. In the USA, given our collegiate sailing quirk... we must also have a partnership with the collegiate coaching elite.

So anybody think the USA has a "properly planned junior pathway" for mixed multihull ??? (What exactly is this pathway???)

How about world class junior coaching. Anybody know who has been involved in coaching and development of junior and senior cat racers? (its a bunch of people)

Final point... just because you raced at the international level... does not make you a qualified... much less world class coach.

Step one.... build a pathway... Step two... poach a great multihull coach for a quad.


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Re: Olympic Sailing Coverage [Re: brucat] #285335
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OK sports fans.... the next quad kicks off today in Miami.

Some new faces join the USA N17 fleet. Bora, JC, Sarah Streeter are familiar names... The N17s will move from POS's on the water to full flying machines by their world championships. The USA has new leadership at the top. He wants to make Olympic sailing relevant to the racing world.



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USA 286 Bora GULARI Anna WEIS
2 USA 025 David HEIN Arielle DARROW
3 USA 027 Ian LIBERTY Carolina MENDELBLATT
4 USA 252 John CASEY Sarah STREATER
5 USA 133 Riley GIBBS Louisa CHAFEE
6 USA 305 Talia TOLAND Ian ANDREWES

Thoughts?

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