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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | It is an american startup project from fulcrumspeedworks.com. Weight 50 kg! , 2.70 x 1.70 meter, sail 7.8 sqm 8 kts wind speed gives 15 kts speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsOTjI7wi7Y
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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#283949 11/14/16 11:57 AM 11/14/16 11:57 AM |
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | Stop the vid at 4.43 and you see the dragging-feeler which controls the angle of the small foiling front wings.
Like with the Moths. They invented this mechanism.
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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#283951 11/14/16 12:28 PM 11/14/16 12:28 PM |
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | Difference is the dimension of the cats and hence the price.
The Swiss Stunt S9 cost 18.000 euro while the UFO goes for 8000 dollar
ronald RAIDER-15 (homebuilt)
hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#283954 11/14/16 03:14 PM 11/14/16 03:14 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Here's what I've been wondering ever since this foiling thing came to the A Cats, once you are up on the foils, hull length no longer applies for speed, so the real challenge comes to be how much sail area you can control, and how efficient your foils are, right?
Perhaps once all cats start foiling, a new measurement rule will evolve that only looks at total sail area, total foil area, and minimum weight?
Hull length, and maybe even beam, won't matter as much once you are up out of the water.
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#283955 11/14/16 04:18 PM 11/14/16 04:18 PM |
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | But that's exactly the genius in the design of this new UFO.
It's a very small and short craft with no other purpose than flying as soon as possible on foils. It doesn't sink like a Moth and also doesn't have all the rimram of a full size cat.
Besides that, you can lift it single-handed and it has the price of an old second car.
It's more or less a "folk foiling boat".
ronald RAIDER-15 (homebuilt)
hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#283985 11/17/16 05:21 PM 11/17/16 05:21 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 425 Toledo, Ohio (western end of ... Mike Fahle
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Posts: 425 Toledo, Ohio (western end of ... | The Stunt, Stunt 9, and S9 are all terms for the same model boat. I sailed one at Foil Week in Newport in early September and enjoyed it. I sailed in marginal foiling conditions (maybe 8 mph) and was told when we got to shore that it would be priced at $22K in the U.S. (boat, originating country tax, trailer, and delivery to U.S.) I looked at Mark Batchelor's Exploder A Class cat and learned from him that they are available for $25K. I would spend the extra $3k for that boat over the S9 if I was in the market for a foiling cat. I would also wait to see how the production UFO turns out as all they had at that time was the prototype and were anticipating selling it for $9K and that would be way easier to transport, rig, launch, retrieve, store, and pay for if you just wanted to go foiling. | | | Re: foiling chasing UFO
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#283994 11/18/16 12:19 PM 11/18/16 12:19 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | whether I win or lose in a race is not as relevant to my interest as ease of foiling/control and the "fun" factor (not complicated setup/breakdown, easy moving on land, storage, transport)
Heck, Hobie Waves aren't exactly the fastest low-riders on the market, but they are a hoot to sail due to their ease...
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#283997 11/18/16 02:50 PM 11/18/16 02:50 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 493 Minnesota Jeff Peterson
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | What's next???
Increasing the width of the foils, sailing into an updraft, and soaring 2000 feet in to the air?
These foiling boats are turning my H-16 into the equivalent of a hard-wired dial phone!
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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#284015 11/22/16 10:38 AM 11/22/16 10:38 AM |
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These foiling boats are turning my H-16 into the equivalent of a hard-wired dial phone!
And the problem with that is....>? What's wrong with "classic" tech if it still works reliably and is enjoyable for you? I enjoy driving manual transmission vehicles I like hardwired phones I still write letters I sail a low-rider
Jay
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#284020 11/22/16 03:51 PM 11/22/16 03:51 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | interesting that the magic wand is behind the main foil rather than in front of it like the mothie... I guess foil trim isn't that sensitive that it has to be out in front?
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