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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Parker] #287470
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Wow, as I type that USA sails out of bounds (totally unforced)...

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...and a blown gybe coming into the bottom gate...

Draper and Nathan are giving Ashby tons of credit, and acknowledging his deep prior catamaran experience, as well as overall involvement with the team and boat/design.

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Ridiculous gains by NZL on that weather leg.

Loosely covering downwind again.

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OK, we're there. NZL 6, USA 1. Now the regatta begins???

Oracle is one stupid mistake away from giving up the Cup. But, they're averaging more than one of those per race...

Mike

Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: brucat] #287474
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Glen was unique in the sailing world with world championship success in developing sails and foiling systems before this generation of AC sailing. He almost got it done in the previous cup. I don't think you can overstate his contribution over 4 years to making New Zealand go. Sure the helm gets the most glory... but Asby is a genius!
So here we are again..... one win to close it out.... WHAT CAN ASBY BE FEELING right now..... Wow.

A sports psychologist can right a book right now on a GASBY Case Study..

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Very impressed with Jimmy in the post-race on-water interview. No excuses, admitted to sailing poorly and making errors; more importantly, gave credit to NZL for outsailing him. Burling, Ainsle et al need to learn from this guy.

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Great points, Mark. Those of us lamenting to see more guys with beach cat heritage in the event should be rooting for Ashby. Just wish he was on our team...

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Originally Posted by brucat
Oh boy, I missed the actual start, but saw the bottom half of leg 2. Interesting that both Draper and Nathan were saying that following was a huge mistake (even before it happened). They both would have double-gybed and split at the bottom.

NZL looking slightly faster upwind, covering tighter, now blowing it open by covering more loosely.

Mike


Well, truthfully, I thought Oracle sailed that correctly. Even when they did split, after rounding the same gate mark behind NZ, they picked the right spot and tacked right into a lift and it looked like they they made the right move...but that lift was short lived and they ended up in a header on the wrong side of the course AND with less pressure. It is not easy sailing these faster than wind boats in light and puffy stuff. I thought Burling and Ashby were doing a really terrific job of managing risk today.


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I would LOVE to have heard their coaches.....seems like they got told to trust their boat speed and handling and trade distance for protection. Do it.... Outeridge and Draper made a point about the young guys soaking up knowledge... I would add... they simply are not getting out of the team concept.

My hunch is that the boys on the boat truly get how much of a team effort their success is and they are not celebrating as if they alone beat Oracle.


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It's very telling how surprised everyone seemed to be with that pre-start maneuver by NZL. They tacked, bore way off and got the hook in very little water. As much as I dislike Burling in the pressers, I'll definitely hand it to him for pulling that off (it looked like he had as much to do with it as Ashby).

Still don't think he needed to throw in that wave.

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Today's presser...



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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Parker] #287481
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Originally Posted by brucat
It's very telling how surprised everyone seemed to be with that pre-start maneuver by NZL. They tacked, bore way off and got the hook in very little water. As much as I dislike Burling in the pressers, I'll definitely hand it to him for pulling that off (it looked like he had as much to do with it as Ashby).

Still don't think he needed to throw in that wave.

Mike


Lol, I still need to go back and watch it. I'm wouldn't be offended by that wave - Spithill has been talking trash ever since he's been in the America's Cup. That's what trash talking gets you.


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So what happens when NZ takes the cup?

Are foiling cats done? Are we back to yawnfest monohulls? Is NZ going to put a stranglehold on the cup by insisting that all of the team members be from the country of the challenger?

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RIP, Bill.

Sadly, we lost him in February.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton

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It's very telling how surprised everyone seemed to be with that pre-start maneuver by NZL. They tacked, bore way off and got the hook in very little water. As much as I dislike Burling in the pressers, I'll definitely hand it to him for pulling that off (it looked like he had as much to do with it as Ashby).

Still don't think he needed to throw in that wave.

Mike


Lol, I still need to go back and watch it. I'm wouldn't be offended by that wave - Spithill has been talking trash ever since he's been in the America's Cup. That's what trash talking gets you.


Maybe that's my long-term memory starting to fade, but I don't remember anything like that in this cycle.

Mike

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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin
So what happens when NZ takes the cup?

Are foiling cats done? Are we back to yawnfest monohulls? Is NZ going to put a stranglehold on the cup by insisting that all of the team members be from the country of the challenger?


I suspect that a good portion ‚Äčof that will depend upon their COR. Who do we expect that to be?

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Originally Posted by brucat
Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin
So what happens when NZ takes the cup?

Are foiling cats done? Are we back to yawnfest monohulls? Is NZ going to put a stranglehold on the cup by insisting that all of the team members be from the country of the challenger?


I suspect that a good portion‚Äčof that will depend upon their COR. Who do we expect that to be?

Mike


Supposedly Luna Rossa.

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