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Hull drag in the air #29176
02/07/04 05:06 AM
02/07/04 05:06 AM
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Came accross this interesting article on another forum, it seems to be saying that the biggest drag on a multihull is the drag of the hull in the air. If this is so then why do we see such a speed advantage in flying the hull.

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WIND

Sail lift - lbs 3610
Total air drag 1013
Sail and rig drag 361
Air drag of hull 652
WATER
Keel lift 3610
Total drag 687
Keel only drag 176
Hull drag (from tank testing) 511

This shows that for a multilhull the largest single contributor to drag is the windage of the hull in the air, followed by the hull in the water


from
http://www.steamradio.com/JSYD/Dogstar50-article.html

It is for a 50ft multihull, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't scale.

Gareth

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Re: Hull drag in the air [Re: grob] #29177
02/07/04 06:32 AM
02/07/04 06:32 AM
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Hi,

he has done these measurements with both hulls in the water. Drag trough the air for the wetted surface normally in the water is less when flying a hull (due to the much higher density of the medium the hull is moving trough when flying).

His point tough, and the reason for the article, is that his Tektron 50 design with rounded hull-deck joints offers less recistanse (drag) when going to windward and thus are a superior design. (Both hulls in the water of course, and this is the basis assumptation for his findings)

On the same grounds, you could round off the hull-deck joint on your smaller multihull. But you would probably be better off wearing a full-body swimming suit and lessen the drag of your own body trapezeing

Short version: One hull flying is faster (both hulls flying are probably slower)

Read the article from Shuttleworth carefully, and I think you will se that your question is probably a bit out of context (no offence intended!).

Re: Hull drag in the air [Re: grob] #29178
02/07/04 08:28 PM
02/07/04 08:28 PM
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Hi Garreth Hi Rolf

In the context of cruising cat design with the desire to extend areas out and up to obtain standing head room and galley head berth storage accomodations plus dining tables and mechanical rm -engine comp. etc this is an important aspect of design ,--its a nice looking cruising cat ,
Many older designs have accomodations between the hulls in the bridgedeck and some with flying bridgdecks above that ,--whew -lots of form windage .

Like this C Class designers comments -
The specifics of each type of design very much a blend of engineering research and applied science along with intuition ,insight based on experience and an funcional artistic ability.

http://www.lacaustralia.com/design/challenge.htm

and this one on the basics of righting moment -stability etc -
http://www.steamradio.com/JSYD/Articles/NESTalk.html

great 4 hull design Gareth , congrates again


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