I have the documentation on it at home, but from memory.

4.30 mtr. length (Aus is metric) = little more than 1 inch longer than 14 feet
0.5 * 4.30 width = 2.15 mtr. = 7 ft 2 inch

Same length to width ratio than Tornado, F18, F16. Will make the preformance with respect to these designs constant over the full range of windspeed when the rig is carefully chosen. This make single handicap number racing (dominant in Aus, EU and Asia) possible. No shifts when wind speed changes.

about 7 mtr. = Mast length, at least that was considered most likely but this dependents on the rig used

weight as low as 70 kg's = 155 lbs

We were leaning towards a cat rigged setup with indeed a furling headsail. Not because of the cat-rigged craze, but because the boats can be build lighter and cheaper without a jib. In this setup the boat needs a furling kind of headsail like a hooter to keep the performance around a course up, especiall reaching which requires a very flat headsail.

Mainsail + mast = about 12 sq. mtr. is a likely candidate.

With the numbers given above the F14 would arrive at about the speed of a P16 when double handed by two kids.

The F14 was/is put in the fridge because of limits in spare time and because it was considered too small a market to be succesful and economic viable.

However if you guys get it off the ground ....

Wouter

Mate,
Not sure what the "Glider" is.. The design I recall is the "Int 14".. Cat rigged one trap..

Thanks for your help, Wouter.

Will post picture tomorrow and than we can see if the Int 14 and Glider are the same or not.

Of course there are so many 14 ft designs in australia.

Wouter

You can see the Glider here

http://takeoff.to/geminicatamarans

Wouter,
I may be able to clarify the Glider Inter14 for you.
They are completely different boats by different designers.
The Glider is 4.0m and the Inter14 is 4.3metres.
The Glider can be configured with main jib and spinnaker while the Inter14 has a bigger main and to my knowledge no jib or spin.

Regards,
Phill

How many of those 14 footers do you have down there in Aus ?

Arrow
Paper tiger
Alpha Omega
Int 14 catamaran (not the same as int 14 dinghy)
Glider
Taipan 4.3

Which am I forgetting ?

Wouter

Woulter
There's also the
Windrush 14,
http://www.windrushqld.asn.au/
Maricat,
http://users.bigpond.net.au/graham_heap/index_maricat.html

TAIPAN 4.3:
To quote AHPC
"The newest and smallest of the Taipan's was launched at the Melbourne Boat Show in July 1999. This yacht is still in its developmental stages, but much interest from around the world is already evident.

The Taipan 4.3, A small, single handed catamaran, is aimed at the junior and intermediate catamaran recreational racing market."
I've posted a picture of the Tiapan, Check the links for the others ->.

Hi Rolf,
You have to be careful scaling an 18ft boat down to a 14ft boat because the displacement also scales down. For example if the hull length and width and height all scale down by 14/18, then the displacement, meaning weight carrying ability, scales down by (14/18)**3. This means the weight carrying ability of the 14ft boat would be 47% as much as the 18ft boat. You might need to go on a significant weight loss program.
Good luck,
Bill

That Glyder looks like a hot little boat! By any chance is it a design that can be built from plans in wood? Where would be the best place to stretch the hulls .3M? Between the beams, at the bows, or the sterns?

I find it interesting that they stick with ~7' width. Are the roads just wider here in the US, allowing for 8'6" wide boats without the need for a tilt trailer?

Hey guys!

New rules on the F14 forum up for debate! We did listen to you and have reacted. Have fun!

Bob Curry

Unfortunately the Glider has to be built from a mould.

You could always buy the hulls and build up the rest.
It uses 2x2 industrial grade aluminium for its beams so it is easy to acquire. And a wing mast 6 metres long. Any broken carbon a class masts around. Alternatively a retired aluminium A class mast.
You would have to ship the hulls from the Central Coast of NSW (Aus).

As far as the raods go the max allowable towing width is 2.5m. The Glider has a 2 metre beam. It was set up this way so the boat is still exciting to sail. It does not carry a huge sail plan.

18 foot with 150 kg crew and 180 kg boat = F18 = overall weight 330 kg

Using your rule :

F14 weight = 0.47 * 330 kg = 155 kg = 80 kg crew (singlehander) + 75 kg boat

Or 70 kg crew + 85 kg boat

Works out quite nicely

Wouter

Woulter
Sorry I forgot to attach the photo!!!!
[ See Company Profile section at AHPC]
http://www.ahpc.com.au/

Inland_sailor,

I'm well aware of the Taipan 4.3 and AHPC.

As the Formula 16 class chairman (Also Taipan 4.9 spi) I have to.

Thanks for the effort.

Wouter