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Speed2 (38Knots) #31046
03/05/04 03:16 PM
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I would not advise you to take a rocketflight with the Rave. I did a few of those intentially with the use of the joystick. I also did one accidentally when there was a 6 - 8Bft wind. I went at least 5 meters up in the air and 30 meters far before landing the Rave nose down in the water. Since the water was only 6 feet deep, I completely wrecked all three hulls and my leg. Just before take-off however I did get my personal speed record up to 38 Knots!


posted on the rave forum
http://forums.confluencewatersports.com/viewtopic.php?t=2916

And apparently he has it on film

Gareth

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Re: Speed2 (38Knots) [Re: grob] #31047
03/05/04 03:35 PM
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I've always wondered what would happen if you were foiling on one of those things and you just pull back on the stick like you're Maverick and Goose :P

TriFoiler Video [Re: MauganN20] #31048
03/05/04 09:31 PM
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Just for fun...

Here is a link to some TriFoiler footage:
Hobie Trifoiler video footage

There are three file sizes. This is the medium resolution. The rest are on the site at:

Hobie TriFoiler Web Page



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Foilers [Re: mmiller] #31049
03/05/04 10:12 PM
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A quote from Aldis Eglajs

"Have you noticed that all photographs of high speed foilers are in flat seas? The trick is doing it with waves"

Luiz


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Re: TriFoiler Video [Re: mmiller] #31050
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that definitely looks like fun.

Re: TriFoiler Video [Re: mmiller] #31051
03/18/04 03:00 PM
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Mat, Luiz brings up a good point. I've wondered about this myself. Is it a smooth water boat or will it take chop? If so, how much? Thanks. Ed


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Re: Foilers [Re: Luiz] #31052
03/19/04 01:58 PM
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A quote from Aldis Eglajs

"Have you noticed that all photographs of high speed foilers are in flat seas? The trick is doing it with waves"

Luiz


Yup. Excellent observation from watching the Tri-Foiler vids. The problem with the Hobie is those little fragile skids riding forward of the bows. A chop plays hell with those things; a design limitation if not a flaw. That's why you never see a Tri-Foiler in water that is only a little confused. The Rave, however, with T-foils about six feet deep will sail eerily smoothly above a three foot chop which is a lot more common when the wind is up. Once foilborne on the Rave the chop is just something to look at. The Rave's foils are riding through the water a couple of feet below the chop and the wands controlling the flaps on the port and starboard foils are slapping the top of the chop so fast that the wands don't have much of a chance to drop into the short troughs so they ride pretty much at a level as if they were on smoother water. The Tri-Foiler can't do that.

I've hit a two foot chop off the shore of Quietwater Beach near Key Sailing in Pensacola. Also, out there behind Tristan Tower. An early French review of the Rave mentioned the most strange feeling of riding so smoothly above a big chop.

To be fair, SOME foilers are designed to be sailed in conditions that favor the design and can too much resemble a one-tack, one-sea state boat. The Rave is much more versatile and it's only drawback is that it is a bit slow in light air but that is also attributed to the warping of the hull shape as it moves through the water while hullborne. That's a tradeoff for using a material that is inexpensive but durable; the high-density poly. A foiler has a hard time being beachcat-like and a speed machine all the time. Don't hit them too hard until you expect a Piper Cub to be able to cruise down the interstate like a Corvette or a Corvette to brave a light chop. Well, it's made of fiberglass. That's a start.

Re: Speed2 (38Knots) [Re: grob] #31053
03/19/04 02:12 PM
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[quote]I would not advise you to take a rocketflight with the Rave.[unquote]

Well, some people just wanna push the envelope just to see what will happen. We need a quote from the guy who strapped one of those aircraft takeoff assist missles to the top of his Chebby to see if he could fly beyond the canyon rim. I wonder if he hit the brakes with his foot. Wile E. Coyote would be proud.

With the Rave, once you've maxed out the tension on the control wands any more speed will guarantee liftoff. It's physics. When that limit is reached the boat can be doing 35, 40, 45. That's an expensive toy to stuff into six feet of water.


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