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Line selection question #31686
03/22/04 08:48 AM
03/22/04 08:48 AM
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Chris9 Offline OP
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We’ve just added a partial spin setup to our 6.0s inventory. I am interested in what types and sizes of lines you are using to control, hoist, and douse your spins?

Jake:
Thanks for the spin rigging diagrams! It looks to me like our pole is setup to be rigged both internally and externally just like your diagram.


Chris Allen
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Re: Line selection question [Re: Chris9] #31687
03/22/04 01:19 PM
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I tried a couple of lines but found the line sold by Performance as the halyard for the N20, N17R and F-18 to be the best for durability and ease of use. I tried smaller diameter and lighter weight but it wore out quickly and hurt my hands. Big mistake. Go with the "tried and true."


Les Gallagher
Re: Line selection question [Re: Chris9] #31688
03/24/04 01:53 PM
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FSE Racing sheet is a very good one.

Concerning halyard and retrieval line, the following might help:
"In order to further reduce friction and the problem of the halyard snagging when dousing, we have developed a special halyard design. Our halyard has three distinct sections. We have the section of the halyard that goes from the head of the spinnaker (when hoisted) to about 6 inches from the halyard cleat made of 1/8" spectra line. About 6" from the cleat that spectra is spliced into a polyester cover and run through that cover until about 8" past the cleat. This way the section of line that is cleated is thicker and it grabs both the spectra core and the cover. About 8" past where the halyard goes into the cleat the polyester cover continues without any core. This empty cover then follows through the system (through the launcher tube and retrieval patches) and eventually ties off to the spinnaker retrieval patch near the top of the spinnaker. One line acts as halyard and retrieval line. The advantage of this system is the low friction of the bare spectra and the virtual highly reduced tendency of the empty cover to get snarled in the douse. The empty cover is flat and therefore easier to grip than a round rope as it exposes more surface area to your fingers to pinch. The empty cover also goes around blocks more easily that a thicker stiffer rope such as one with core and cover. This pliability also reduces friction around blocks." (see http://www.sailforgold.ca/2002%20News/Genniker.htm)

Concerning retrieval lines:
I am using a midpole snuffer system (Tornado), and I have severe problems with the retrieval line cutting my spinnaker. It looks like mice came after it, after just one season of sailing. I counted about 30 patches in the end.

Any ideas ?

Re: Line selection question [Re: ceitzi] #31689
03/25/04 03:42 PM
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Chris9 Offline OP
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Thanks for the reply!

What is FSE? I like that idea of the sheet being coreless where you handle it!


Chris Allen
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Re: Line selection question [Re: sparky] #31690
03/25/04 03:43 PM
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Chris9 Offline OP
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Les,

Do you know who make the lines are and what sizes the are?


Chris Allen
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Re: Line selection question [Re: Chris9] #31691
03/30/04 01:10 AM
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FSE = Finest Sailing Equipment
FSE-Robline is a big manufacturer of ropes.

For further information see http://www.teufelberger.com/text_uk/fiber_ropes/nautic/PDF_eng/Racing_eng.pdf


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