| Help me point! #34163 06/09/04 08:44 AM 06/09/04 08:44 AM |
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 69 Austin Lake MI jes9613 OP
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Posts: 69 Austin Lake MI | Alright, last nights club races I get good starts for both races to find that I can't point near as high as the competetion. On Austin lake the legs of the course are relatively short so there really isn't enough space to foot for speed so pointing is key (for the most part). I'm probably 5 to 10 degrees lower than the competetion and with the same speed. I try to feather up to match but the boat just sits down with no speed. I'm set up with the sidestays in the second hole, jib halyard very tight, 10 kts wind so crew on trap. It pisses me off as the lack of pointing ability cost me at least one of the races if not both. ![](http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif) Thanks, John | | | Re: Help me point!
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#34168 06/09/04 10:49 AM 06/09/04 10:49 AM |
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 251 beaufort, sc dannyb9
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Posts: 251 beaufort, sc | ok i assume your jib halyard is pulled down till there is 9"-12" of slack in the jib stay on the beach. the jib stay not the jib luff wire should have a little slack even when you are sailing hard to weather. your traveller should be centered at 10 kn, mainsheet almost block to block. your jib telltales should be pasted to the lee side of your sail, the windward ones should be just lifting. what about your fore and aft trim? your weight should be forward. your lee bow should be within a very few (2-3) inches of the water. what about your rudders, are they adjusted so they have 1/8"-1/4" of toe in? are your friends sailing carbon or fg rudders (stiffer) against your lexan (more flexible) rudders? what about your battens. they should be just tight enough to remove wrinkles, except the top two on the main, they should be tensioned to induce some curvature at the top. are you trying to sail so high that you are sailing too slow and you are slipping sideways? honestly, sailing to weather is the fine art of sailing. point till you feel the speed begin to drop, then very gently bear off for speed, then gently head up and... practice! : )
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#34170 06/09/04 11:38 AM 06/09/04 11:38 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 894 Branford, CT rhodysail
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Posts: 894 Branford, CT | One more thing Just to be sure I'm assuming the competition that you refer to was also sailing in a Hobie 16
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#34172 06/09/04 02:44 PM 06/09/04 02:44 PM |
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y pbisesi
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | What is your crew weight? What are the weights of your competion? Sailing heavy (310+)will kill your ability to point. If heavy you may want to try raking a little more forward and get in clean air fast.
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#34176 08/25/08 07:36 PM 08/25/08 07:36 PM |
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 921 Alachua, FL Mugrace72
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Posts: 921 Alachua, FL | One thing nobody has touched on is the condition of your mast rotation stops.
I've noticed that as my boat ages (and it's only 6 years old), it can't point as high as it used to, even though the mast rotation stops are worn (will wait this one out, since mast rotation controls will be class legal next year).
\ Matt, Looking over old threads, I came accross this. What do you mean mast rotation controls will be class legal next year? Did this pass?
Jack Woehrle Hobie Wave #100, Tiger Shark III HCA-NA 5022-1 USSailing 654799E Alachua FL/Put-In-Bay | | | Re: Help me point!
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#34177 08/25/08 09:25 PM 08/25/08 09:25 PM |
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio Tri_X_Troll
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Posts: 224 Cincinnati, Ohio | I know that my new sails and a crazy amount of rake solved my pointing issues. Learning not to oversheet is also helped.
My 27 year old boat seems to keep up with the newer competition well enough. I know it's not a nationals boat, but fast enough for local fleet racing
Now if I can learn to tack.
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#34178 08/29/08 08:17 PM 08/29/08 08:17 PM |
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI mbounds
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Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI | One thing nobody has touched on is the condition of your mast rotation stops.
I've noticed that as my boat ages (and it's only 6 years old), it can't point as high as it used to, even though the mast rotation stops are worn (will wait this one out, since mast rotation controls will be class legal next year).
\ Matt, Looking over old threads, I came accross this. What do you mean mast rotation controls will be class legal next year? Did this pass? No, it did not. Rotation controls are only allowed on the 14 (and of course all the boats that come with them). | | | Re: Help me point!
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