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[Re: mitch]
#37001 08/19/04 05:16 PM 08/19/04 05:16 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | Try raising your boards(Plates hey Simon?) a bit, and maybe even raising your windward rudder. This helps balance the I20, and takes alot of pressure off the boat.
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[Re: mitch]
#37002 08/19/04 05:25 PM 08/19/04 05:25 PM |
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Posts: 290 Pensacola, Florida / Katy, Tex... | Mitch,
It sounds like your rudders are either the wrong size or you do not have them adjusted in the vertical position correctly. As you get water pressure or resistance against them, the lever arm (in this case the rudder) loads up and by creating a moment, wherby you are countering it by pulling (or pushing) on your tiller. It sounds like the same thing you would experience when you can't put you rudders down all the way in shallow water and try to steer. You don't need it too far out to create a very large force working against you. I'm sure that it works eponentially too according to your speed.
Just my 2 cents.
Don Cook
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[Re: DanWard]
#37004 08/19/04 08:07 PM 08/19/04 08:07 PM |
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Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys | While the helm is getting tight, does it try to head to wind at the same time? What about mast rake in conjuntion with udder rake? The continuum transfunctioner could tip off its axis and cause world of problems...
Does the reynolds 21 have dagger boards (plates?)
Eric Arbogast ARC 2101 Miami Yacht Club | | | Re: A tough question?
[Re: DanWard]
#37005 08/20/04 06:25 AM 08/20/04 06:25 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I once installed the rudders backwards on my Hobie 18 which left them toed in badly. The helm felt like a ton of bricks and the boat wouldn't tack.
Nacra 5.8 rudders sound awefully small for that boat - but I'm no expert.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Is the problem Weather or Lee Helm?
[Re: mitch]
#37008 08/20/04 06:47 PM 08/20/04 06:47 PM | Anonymous
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Unregistered | Hey Mitch When driving off in big wind the bow is further down in the water, so more forward hull is in the water driving the boat totally straight. This means less rudder is in the water as well, though not always. What happens is the hull is like a big, long rudder itself driving the boat. Due to your speed through the water there is equal (and a lot) of pressure on both sides of forward section of the hull. I'm not too familiar with the R21, but maybe it's the amount of bow in the water. I think these guys are right. Crack off the main a little and put some twist in the top of the main so the head is not leveraging the bow too deep, so your steerage comes back. Going downwind and reaching in waves I like some twist to take the pressure off the rudders and give me more steerage with less bow driving the boat straight. You could also get deeper rudders with less cord length. That would for sure help your helm. As a matter of fact, that's what I'd do, get rudders with as much surface area or more as the 5.8s but make them higher aspect so you don't fight the high pressure on the aft section of the rudder. Good luck. | | | Re: Is the problem Weather or Lee Helm?
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#37010 08/21/04 09:10 PM 08/21/04 09:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Actually side slipping - spinnaker or no spinnaker, is still a bad thing. Think about it this way; does your boat move easier through the water straight ahead or sideways? If you're side slipping you have more drag in the water.
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