Hi all,
I'm looking at buying a used a-cat and at the moment I have my eyes on a Auscat Mk3 from 1993. The cat has new mast, boom, sail and battens from 2000.
The hulls are outer layer kevlar and inner skin carbon.
The boat came 3rd in Kielerwoche in 2002.

Would this boat be competetive today?
What should I look for?

All input appriciated

Patrik

I am not an A Class specailist but what I know -

The mark 3 has aloy beams and mast and the hulls are non canted. Not very cometitive.

I'd look for a mark 4 or 5 with canted hulls and all carbon accessories.

Mark 5 is very simular to the Flyer. From the AUS A Class guys there is not much difference between these boats. The flyer being the weapon off choice for the guns but have been told mark 5 is as good as any.

Expect to pay AUD$18000 + for a flyer platform plus another 5 or 6 for the rig.

See boats for sale in Australia

Also see attached cool pic of Gashby's Nosedive

Complete boats for sale
AUS 859 Australian Flyer excellent condition. Saarberg mast. 2 sets of sails (Ashby and Brewin) has had very little work. Looking for quick sale at the right price. Complete with trailer, beach rollers and sail box. Suit new boat buyer. $19500 ono.
Contact Rod Molkentin on 0408 626 058 or A/H 07 49787580


AUS 687 Mark 3 $4990 ONO with kevlar hulls and aluminium mast in good condition.
Ideal first boat ready to sale and race. Includes cover and beach rollers.
Contact Gary Crosthwaite. Mobile 0438 387107. Email: gcro2549@bigpond.net.au
Flyer AUS 839 Immaculate condition 73kg Carbon hulls, beams, boards, x-bar etc .
Fibrefoam mast with adjustable diamond tension. Ashby sail approx 1/2 season use. Beach wheels and chocks.
Second boat so has had very little use. $19,750 Phone Mark Griffith 0418 647512.
AUS 837 MkV Boyer. Excellent condition. Sell complete or platform only, also option on trailer. Gear includes,
Saarberg mast, carbon rudders/centreboards, Brewin sail (1/2 season old), and carbon: beams (extra stiff), x-bar, tiller and boom.
Complete: $19,000 (without trailer), Platform only (incl. rudders+stocks/centreboards): $13,500.
Phone Bruce McArthur, 0412 963 175, or email smik@ozemail.com.au
AUS 661 mk 3 double kevlar hulls, stiff aluminium mast, 2 sets of sails, all gear good condition, new tramp,
non-tie down trailer. good fast boat for beginner in the class $4,990
Contact Nick Ph 3890 4635 or 0411 570 757 or email flint_nick@yahoo.com.au
GERMAN FLYER
Steve Brewin is selling his gear only because he needs the money to build a house, but he will be back.
This boat has won 2 world championships and 3rd in the other one. A superb track record.
It was put together by Nils Bunkenburg and certainly is still stiffer than a standard boat.
It has a new tramp and relativly new paint job, SEXY.
Platform $18000, rig $6000, complete boat $23000 AUD
It will have a brand new sail built by Steve Brewin to suit the body weight of the new owner.
Also I have other rigs to sell if interested all with brand new sails. One Cairns sail hardly used.
Phone Steve at night 02 98724827or 02 98711585; Email carlingford.joinery@bigpond.com


AUS 786 Boyer Mk 4 canted carbon mast, boom, rudder stocks & foils, ex-Tony McKenzie, faired-in beams, new Ashby sail, 2nd Irwin sail,
new tramp, Mackay trailer with sail box, beach rollers, bow covers. $12,000, Adelaide.
Contact: Roger Wilson Ph 0438 000044 Email roger@rtsys.com.au
Old A-class (fibreglass) for sale complete with one year registered trailer, new rigging wires.
Very good condition ready for sail now. Nice boat for beginners, price $1700.
Contact Mario at mmuns@mullermartini.com.au or call 0402102678
GERMAN FLYER AUS-1 (AUS 854)
Built April 2002, Current National, World Champion,
Comes with as new FIBERFOAM mast and ASHBY SAIL.
Complete boat as sailed to date. Race tuned and pretty fast. Trailer and trolley optional. $25,600 complete, Platform alone $19,800
Can be optioned up or down to suit. Is available for Nationals and World Championships.
Contact GLENN ASHBY 0354 39 3799 hm. 0409827152 mob. glenn@ashbysails.com




KA/AUS 406 Older plywood hull, good for a start up boat.
Galvanised trailer, boat rollers,Boat box, Sail no KA/AUS 406, all in fair condition.
Contact Peter Cross, Ph: (08) 8398 3464
AUS 754 Boyer Mk IV canted, Carbon Kevlar Hulls, Carbon Centerboards, Carbon Mast, New Goodall AR8 Sail, Beach Rollers, $9,500, Brisbane.
Contact Vic Collett. Phone 0409328533
AUS 822 Boyer Mark V Striker-less fwd carbon beam, aft carbon beam, carbon rudders, centreboards. 3 sails; Brewin, Goodall and Cairns.
Saarborg Carbon Mast Full Bags Boat Cover Maastrom Big Beach Rollers Mackay Trailer with box Plenty of spare carbon bits and other spares.
Excellent Condition Selling complete for AU$16,500.00
Contact Email: argoodwin@bigpond.com or Mark Johnston on Mobile: 0439 454 481
AUS 838 LIQUID A$$ETT$ Immaculate Boyer MkV. [double kevlar] carbon strikerless beams, silver "colour" tramp,
Saarberg mast, carbon foils and boxes, "Bags" boatcover Goodall beach rollers, Irwin sail, fibrefoam batterns.
Chronic Arm injury forcing sale asking A$17,990
For more details
Contact Dave Churcher 0415 333026, 0359835174 [bh] 0359743593 ah dchurcher@bigpond.com
AUS 792 "Raptor" (see image below) Mark 4 Cantered hulls, Carbon mast, boom, beams and foils.
No dolphin striker. Beams glued in - stiff boat. 5Kg under weight. Doesn't leak. New trampoline. Very good condition.
$12,500. Contact John Richards, McCrae Y.C. Ph: 59 812648, Mob: 0416 170 450


AUS 790 $14,000 Kevlar/Glass hulls with Carbon striker-less beams. Includes Beach Rollers.
Carbon boom, I season old Irwin sail, Aussie Carbon mast. Watertight hulls, & good racing record.
Contact Stuart Scott, Mob: 0419 100 779, W: (03) 9499 7755

AUS 704 $10,300 "XTREME" (see picture). Mk 3 Carbon fibre after market canted hulls. Australian Carbon mast, carbon foils.
Trampoline and daggerboards only two seasons old. Complete with galvanised trailer and two sail boxes.
1 Radial kevlar Goodall main. Ex Greg Goodall boat so built very light, 72.5 kg.
Excellent condition, only selling to upgrade.
Contact: Gordon Falkingham (Home) 03 5282 1522 (Mobile) 0417 031 779 (Email) slyc@bigpond.net.au


AUS 725 $9,500 Black Label, Boyer Mk 4 (non canted), Carbon Hulls, includes beach wheels, 2mm beam,
2 Goodall sails, Saarberg Mast plus trailer for $300
Contact: David Laurie Home: (07) 4972 8131, Email lauried@qal.com.au

I assume that is a staged pic as it does not look very windy judging by the sea state :

Thanks for the input! and the pic, love it!

If bought the beams will be replaced by me with carbon, hoopefully strikerless and with canting hulls during the winter. And the mast and boom is already in carbon. I was mostly wondering about underwater shape development since 1993. Was has happened?

Over the waterline things has happened, but it's much harder to see from photos what if anything substancial has happened to underwter shape.

Still looking for input!

The older boats like Mark3 will weigh much more (200-220 pounds= 93-100 kg) more than switchover (about 1999?) to 75 kg (165 pounds). Carbon mast is 22 vs 40 pounds for aluminum. Big parts like crossbars, boom save a little weight each, little parts like tiller extensions- it is getting hard to lose much more. You will still end up with plenty of kilos maybe 85 or 90!

This particular boat is 75KG, and during the winter I will fit new beams in carbon that will cant the hulls.
So still looking for what the difference is below the waterline.

BR
Patrik