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#40664 12/02/04 01:16 PM 12/02/04 01:16 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC Tornado
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Though I am partial to the Dart since it is a very well made boat and has same designer as the Tornado, I have heard they tend to be undersailed, meaning they really like lots of wind to go best. If your location normally gets 10+ kts of wind, the Dart should be fine. It is also the lightest boat on your list of choices. You could always add a spinny or Hooter yourself.
Mike.
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#40665 12/02/04 01:22 PM 12/02/04 01:22 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Though I am partial to the Dart since it is a very well made boat and has same designer as the Tornado, I have heard they tend to be undersailed, meaning they really like lots of wind to go best. If your location normally gets 10+ kts of wind, the Dart should be fine. It is also the lightest boat on your list of choices. You could always add a spinny or Hooter yourself.
Mike. I would NOT suggest the Dart unless you sail somewhere where it is 15+ most of the time. It really is under sailed. Not the gretatest design and would not take kite well. The Nacra is by far the best bet. Sail area Well Built Ability to take a kite Plates Don't even think about the Hobie 17 if you want to take more than 1.
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#40672 12/02/04 05:02 PM 12/02/04 05:02 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Don't add a spi or hooter to the Dart 18. They tried and the design apparently doesn't like it very much. Reasons I heard pop up here and there. The steerage goes from weatherhelm and leehelm under spi depending on how much the nose if pressed in the water and the back is lifted. Also the less than crisp steerage of the Dart 18 tends to make bearing away in the gusts, under spi, awkward and too slow.
Several sailors have tried and advice against it.
Wouter
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#40673 12/02/04 05:05 PM 12/02/04 05:05 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Out of the 3 boats listed ; I would advice teh nacra 5.2 for your intended purpose and having a boom is really better.
Wouter
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#40674 12/02/04 05:43 PM 12/02/04 05:43 PM |
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland Dermot
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | No kite rig, but handicapping will mean I am not disadvantaged
I agree with most things said, but you speak of " handicapping". If you are considering racing then the Dart is the only one with a fleet !
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#40675 12/02/04 07:39 PM 12/02/04 07:39 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | No kite rig, but handicapping will mean I am not disadvantaged
I agree with most things said, but you speak of " handicapping". If you are considering racing then the Dart is the only one with a fleet ! How many darts sail at Datchett ? I thought it was all Hurricanes and FX1's ?
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#40676 12/02/04 08:48 PM 12/02/04 08:48 PM |
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland Dermot
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | How many darts sail at Datchett ?
I thought it was all Hurricanes and FX1's ? How many Nacra 5.2s and Hobie 17s sail in the south of England compared to Dart 18s. You do not have to travel very far to find a fleet of Dart 18s if you want to race. When Condors were the main fleet here, I always fancied a Nacra 5.2, but we never had any here in Ireland.
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