Hello All,

I am from New Zealand and am hoping to compete in the Atlantic 1000 in 2005. From what I have seen there are no set dates.

Will this event take place?

What classes will be competing?

Looking forward to the Adventure.

Aaron McIntosh.

Aaron: excellent!!

Followed your Olympic campaign with interest, and will be very much looking forward to seeing how you go in the A1000.

Sorry I can't help with details, but I'm sure there are others here who can.

Go the ABs!!

Mark.
Long way from home.

Hi Aaron hi Mark

there is the Tybee 500 site http://www.tybee500.com/

Have raced the events over the years ,though missed last year ,-and like you would like to race the Atlantic 1000 mile race in 05 . Teams entering really do need to start now to organize and have some time to try to obtain sponsorship to help with the travel costs etc.

Think they will have info up after the holidays ,you can contact them through the web site ,it has basic info

It is great to see he interest and enthusiasm .
all the best
Carl Roberts
sail6000

Thanks for the up date Carl,

Already have support based in Miami and keen. Will need to charter a boat, so keen to find out the class restrictions.

Sponsorship thats all ways a tough one, have few good leads. Depends on the press that the race generates too.

Thanks

Aaron.

Hi Aaron

Great that you have support in Miami ,-The importance of a really good knowledgable ground crew is essential just to finish the 1000 miles and can not be emphasized enough.
Without a great ground crew,their support -repairs,-parts ,travel ,etc the race is nearly impossible as it sometimes becomes a race of attrition if there is more severe conditions for days in a row battling the Atlantic Ocean up the Eastern seaboard .

The racing and nav itself are fairly simple---
As they say -keep the continent on your left and go like hell. {when its on your right its never a good sign } though sometimes occuring, and night racing adds an element many catsailors are not accustomed to.

It will be great to see a KIWI team in the event ,-sounds like N Z will be well represented.

hope to see you there in May
Carl

As far as I know, the full 1000 miles will run next year with Tybee 500 and Outer Banks 500 organizers coordinating things.
As for that, everyone should check the February issue of Sailing World Magazine for a bit of coverage.

Aaron, Carl, Mark et al:

The race is definitely on! Talked to Chuck last week here at Tybee. They are working out some of the checkpoints as the Hurricanes did some damage to a few of the checkpoint hotels that will not be repaired in time for the race. They already have the alternate sites picked out and are putting together the details.

I know the press coverage will be better this year... can't say why, but expect an announcement soon. Something good for everyone... pro and amateur teams alike.

Aaron...Carl is spot on regarding ground crew. It is critical to have a cohesive team that is knowledgeable and gets along if you expect to do well. The race is a blast, but definitely a grind for all involved. Don't scrimp on ground crew accomadations or food. Two weeks of 4 - 5 people to a room with one toilet and one shower gets old long before the finish.

Aaron, The boat to use is the Nacra 20 and all the details can be found at nacraclass.com. Add chicken lines, storage pockets to the tramp, rake the mast back more than buoy racing and haul butt up the coast. Have excellent spray gear and top of the line safety gear (epirb, vhf, gps, cell phone, rescue knife, mirror, flashlight, strobe, etc.). A lot of guys wear dry suits and they are virtually a necessity from Tybee North that time of year though many wear them in Florida also. I'm trying out a Neil Pryde semi-dry wetsuit this winter that uses the latest surf and kiteboarding technology...super warm 5/3 and super stretch... and I'm used to wearing an Oneill Zen which is top of the line. I wore a sleeveless Oneill shorty under Musto spray gear the last Tybee 500 and it worked well in all temp ranges.

Good luck to all this year and God willing... Rob and I will be on the line in May with you.

Merry Christmas,

Jim Stone
Tybee Island
Team Soul Surfer

>>Aaron, The boat to use is the Nacra 20 and all the details can be found at nacraclass.com.

Does this mean that only I-20's may be used for the race ?

Wouter

Not in the past.

But I think if you gave sailors the option, the I20 would be the boat of choice.

If you look on the tybee 500 page, any 20' cat with factory spinand 8.5' beam can compete.

Hi Jim

good to see you planning the 05 Tybee and Atlantic 1000 race --AGAIN!!

Some might get the wrong impression about boats ,-wout asked if only N 20s would be used ,-I,m not sure but think they will have serveral classes of catamarans and would probably accomodate other similar speed cat designs to the inter 20 .-They listed this last year -

copy--Classes will consist of 18 and 20 foot production catamarans with beams no more than 8.5 feet and spinnaker rigged by the factory, except as changed by this Notice of Race. Classes shall include, but not be limited to:

Inter 20 - factory spinnaker
Nacra 6.0 - New England 6.0 spinnaker
Hobie 20 - factory spinnaker
NAF 18 - factory spinnaker
Open - factory spinnaker rigged
Portsmouth .6300 or below.

also --off subject ,just read this op-ed in the NY tIMES
BY sTEVE mARTIN --always been a fan and have enjoyed his work -it is unusual to find him writting an op -ed much less published in the NYTimes --
here is a copy --if interested ,-
--have fun -Carl

NYTimes.com > Opinion
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
The King and I
By STEVE MARTIN

Published: December 5, 2004

E-Mail This Article
TIMES NEWS TRACKER

Martin, Steve -
T is fitting that so many major news organizations have asked me to herald the coming to the United States of the artifacts from King Tut's tomb. After all, I'm the one who wrote the silly song about him. I stepped over the backs of many Egyptologists who wanted to write this article, but it's better that they learn their lesson now: silly song writers are powerful and vicious people who will stop at nothing to write an article about subjects they have treated in a silly way.

I know that the song "King Tut" has become a standard and that many people believe it has been around for three-quarters of a century and was probably written by Cole Porter or Irving Berlin. But no, I wrote it in my car while driving - and you probably won't believe this - I wrote it in less than 15 minutes. The song broke musical ground in that if you look at the sheet music, there are asterisks where the notes should be, because the song has no tune. You will realize this if you hum the song in your head right now. This of course angered many so-called legitimate songwriters who have to make up melodies to go with their lyrics.

It does strike me as ironic that the song has become the standard reference work on the subject of King Tut. Many of the lines in the song are now believed to be fact. In this article I should - as a serious scholar - set the record straight:

King Tut was not "born in Arizona."

He did not live in a "condo made of stone-a."

King Tut did not "do the monkey," nor did he "move to Babylonia."

King Tut was not a honky.

He was not "buried in his jammies."

The song does, however, make a valid assertion that scholars still regard as a breakthrough: King Tut was, as explained in the song, "an Egyptian."

When I got a call from a high-level Egyptian museum official saying that his country was upset that my song "King Tut" was not being played worldwide as much as it should be, and asking me if I would endorse an American tour of the artifacts in order to increase awareness of my song, I humbly agreed. The gentleman said, "If we thought that our exhibit would, in some way, introduce your song to even one more person, then the whole enterprise would be worth it." I am proud to be of service.

Steve Martin is the author of "The Pleasure of My Company

added note ,-- my appologies for the unusual sence of humor and the sometimes too frequent distraction and off subject content posts to the very serious topic of catamaran sailing
Here are the lyrics to King Tut if you have temporarily forgotten them ---sing along if you like --
Lyrics for: King Tut

King Tut (King Tut)
Now when he was a young man,
He never thought he'd see
People stand in line to see the boy king.

(King Tut) How'd you get so funky?
(funky Tut) Did you do the monkey?
Born in Arizona,
Moved to Babylonia (king Tut).

(king Tut) Now, if I'd known
they'd line up just to see him,
I'd trade in all my money
And bought me a museum. (king Tut)

Buried with a donkey (funky Tut)
He's my favorite honkey!
Born in Arizona,
Moved to Babylonia (king Tut)

Dancin' by the Nile, (Disco Tut)
The ladies love his style, (boss Tut)
Rockin' for a mile (rockin' Tut)
He ate a crocodile.

He gave his life for tourism.
Golden idol!
He's an Egyptian
They're sellin' you.

Now, when I die,
now don't think I'm a nut,
don't want no fancy funeral,
Just one like ole king Tut. (king Tut)

He coulda won a Grammy,
Buried in his Jammies,
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia,
He was born in Arizona, got a condo made of stone-a,
King Tut!

Formula 18's ?

They aren't 20 foot as the conditions states.

Wouter

Wouter, its 18 OR 20 foot designs.

My mistake.

I'm feeling a little confused. What does King Tut have to do with the Atlantic 1000

SteveT,
I think cabin fever is setting in up there in Michigan.

I did not mean to confuse anyone regarding what boat is going to be allowed. The Nacra 20 (formerly I-20) is the boat that the vast majority of sailors will probably be sailing and a proven boat for the race. It's up to the organizers to announce the boats, but I'm 99.9% sure the Nacra 20 will be the largest class represented. The Nacra 6.0NA/NE spin will probably drop off to a few boats if Nationals was any indication. Maybe the F-18 guys will turn out??? I've not heard any mention of the Eagle 20 this year which caused a stir last year... I think there will be info up at the start of the year on the web...

I just personally am planning to use a distance race equipped Nacra 20.

Peace,

Jim

Okay, I feared that the F18's were banned this year. Which I think would be a big mistake if the events wants to go international.

Thanks for the clearification

Wouter

There is a sailor push to create an F18 fleet for the Tybee or OBX or Atlantic race...Personally, while I'm sure it's doable, I am a little hesitant about racing an F18 in heavy offshore conditions. I'm going to sneak into it though and see how I feel doing mroe shorter distance runs (like starting with Steeplechase). I would like to see a healthy F18 class doing the race and hope to be there again soon.

Jake,
Why would you hesitate to use an 18-foot cat in an offshore race? I would actually feel safer on the smaller boat.

Hi

Many posters will sometimes ,-ALONG with reply comment and information added on the subject ,such as links provided etc ,---will sometimes add an off subject addition ,generally under,- not surprisingly -{{off subject}] in the post placed after the reply on various subjects of interest or sometimes humorous current events that they wish to share. We see current examples of this under numerous threads as per what do some do in winter months etc etc .
If ,in the future there is a reply ,-then within the text an added portion under -{{off subject}}-readers might expect this part of the post to actually be {{off subject}}
In these instances people with little tolerance for anything {off subject}}should stop reading and proceed to the next thread .

Steve ,-to answer your question directly ,-Steve Martin is a comedian that many enjoy ,with a very offbeat sence of humor ,-please forgive me mine , but I laughed in reading the op-ed and simply wished to share it with other catsailors . You may not know who Steve Martin is or be familiar with his movies and comic works, and can understand your potential confusion, though would highly recommend that any attempting the 1000 mile race have a very good sence of humor.

Eric ,maybe it is time you stop worrying about my posts and enter the 05 Atlantic 1000 on your Arc 21 ??
good luck -happy sailing ,
oh ya
Dancin' by the Nile, (Disco Tut)
The ladies love his style, (boss Tut)
Rockin' for a mile (rockin' Tut)
He ate a crocodile.

He gave his life for tourism.
Golden idol!
He's an Egyptian
They're sellin' you.

Now, when I die,
now don't think I'm a nut,
don't want no fancy funeral,
Just one like ole king Tut. (king Tut)

He coulda won a Grammy,
Buried in his Jammies,
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia,
He was born in Arizona, got a condo made of stone-a,
King Tut!

Carl,
In order to make this relevant, you are going to have to name your boat "King Tut."