Here the first prelimairy news (May change as more news comes in)

Gina and Matt second at Hagar ! (at least I assume Gina was crew as only skippers are named on the list)

By the way, why don't they list the crews ? On these boats the crew is extremely important in the end result and they should get the credit they deserve. (so I named Gina first in this post to compensate somewhat! )

Listing 1 : sorted on corrected time

1st 4:22:44 Andrews H16
2nd 4:40:57 McDonald Blade F16
3rd 4:42:57 Roddericks N5.2
4th 4:43:45 Henry N5.5sl
5th 5:03:16 Casey I20
6th 5:11:09 Shambie NF18
7th 5:18:00 Harnden TF16
8th 5:22:12 Ingram NF18
9th 6:16:30 Herendeen I20
10th DNF Gilligan, Roland, Cindi


Listing 2 : sorted on elapsed time


1st 3:02:34 Casey I20
2nd 3:10:58 Henry N5.5sl
3rd 3:12:10 McDonald Blade F16
4th 3:12:33 Roddericks N5.2
5th 3:19:27 Shambie NF18
6th 3:26:32 Ingram NF18
7th 3:26:46 Andrews H16
8th 3:37:31 Harnden TF16
9th 3:46:39 Herendeen I20
10th DNF Gilligan, Roland, Cindi


That 5.2 had several mod factors for oversized main, solo sailing a doublehander, spi and being a sloop I believe
The 5.5 had a L4 correction = For total crew weight less than 70% of class min. crew wt. So I think he was singlehanding a sloop doublehander as well. We must take that into account when looking at the results.

I don't know yet why the H16 by Andrew is so much in front on corrected time (listing 1)

But interesting to note is how Gina and Matt were 3rd in total elapsed time after teh I20 of casey and just 1 min and 12 sec behind the singlehanderd sloop nacra 5.5 of Henry. I say that is a great score. The other boats come in after them. Of course this is a two day fun distance race but still. Note where the other F18's and I20 ended up. The Taipan F16 of Chuck and Mavis as well, but I understand from the rumour that they had a spinnaker issue and couldn't set it during he race.


The weather conditions were : (From David Ingram of www.1design.net)


Saturday

Northwest winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 6 to 8 feet subsiding to 3 to 5 feet in the evening. Intracoastal waters a moderate chop.

Sunday

North winds 10 knots becoming southeast in the afternoon and evening. Seas 3 to 5 feet.


Especially the second would have been good for the singlehanders

Hopefully more later. Or maybe some of the participants can be invited to type up a short race report for us ?

Wouter

Great news!! I have been waiting on these, and usually I read catsailor first. Good to know!

Congrats to both of them.

Wouter a small observation is that they mention McDonald, here in the US once a couple is married the wife loses her last name. So all in all if they mentioned McDonald, they could have referred to as the McDonald family, dunno.

Robi,
I don't think you can assume that a woman's last name automatically changes when she gets married. I never changed mine...still waiting to see whether the marriage works out.

ahhahahaha true Mary very true!!!

My wife never changed hers as well. Although we got married in Puerto Rico, and in Puerto Rico the womend do not loose their last name. I guess its a matter of choice really.

Then Gina and Matt were 1st only be end up being 2nd again.

Turns out the RC miss read the H16 finish time ; it was correct to 4:26:46 from 3:26:46. Wahh, whats one hour difference ! Well it sort of put the H16 from 1st to 8th position.

And that would have lead Gina and Matt to 1st place were it not for some more USPN magic. Turns out that the Nacra 5.2 sloop with spinnaker, modified squaretop main and being sailed singlehanded could one modification factor wrong. Its modified mainsail was within the 5 % size margin and therefor the MN (0.99) correction over the ML (0.975) correction had to be used. And that was enough to put him pass teh Blade F16 for 1st place.

Unbelievable how much fun you can have as an RC when handicapping such a distance race !

See here the updated results :





I looked up the N5.2 specs.

Boatweight 155 kg boat weight singlehanded at 75 kg or so = 230 kg overall
Length 5.18 mtr
Mast height 8.3 mtr or so
mainsail about 15.03 sq.mtr.
jib 4.34 sq .mtr
spi : must be somewhere between 17 and 21 sq. mtr.

If we compare this too the Blade F16

Boatweight 110 kg or so (prototype) + 135 kg crew = about 245 kg overall
Length 5 mtr
mast height 8.5 mtr.
Mainsail 14.85 sq. mtr
Jib 3.65 sq.mtr.
Spi : 17.5 sq.mtr.

The two boats look bloody comparable in 0 to 12 knots of winds, with the N5.2 being singlehanded appearing to have an edge in area to weight. And the Hagar race results show a similar elapsed time result. The boy got lucky with the UPSN modifiers.

All good fun. They gave eachother a race and the N5.2 finished 22 second behind Matt and Gina after some 3 hours and 12 minutes racing. That is really close.

It looks like this is going to be the final standing.

Ohh before I forget the RC wrote under the results :



Wouter

The 31st annual Hagar regatta was a great time.
There was a cold front move in Friday, which kept a lot of people from showing, which was a shame because the weather was pretty good for this time of year. Sat was a little chilly but the sun was out and wind around 10, Sun was really nice but the wind a little lighter. Great fun for those who came out.
Once again though, I got nothing but great comments on the boat, and we really enjoyed sailing it.
I got everything back together Friday night and once again was assembling the thing for the 2nd time on the beach before a race. I managed to bring all the parts this time though and it was a lot more relaxing. The new tubing for the 1 piece pelican striker did not come in in time to get it fitted, but the mods I made for the old style worked OK. I now have the perfect excuse to fit out the modifications on the prototype though, because I managed to snap the spin pole in half first thing on Sunday. Note: they are not designed to support the full weight of a person not smart enoung to jump into water over their head and try to stop by grabbing the end of the pole on the way down.


Saturday the distance race of about 24 miles. It was a North South course with the wind out of the North, so some good upwind downwind work. It was somewhat variable peaking around 10 knots. We took off and around the first turning mark, most of the fleet went inside along the shore. We jibed for clear air and caught a wind line going close to the mark, but taking us slightly across the river. Right about the time I was congratulating myself on the call, we jibed and went into a huge hole of no wind, while we watched the rest of the fleet sail down to the mark at the 520 bridge. After many nasty comment to the wind gods we worked our way back to the west shore and managed to round the mark DFL. The Hobie 16s and 18s were even significantly ahead of us at that point. With nothing to do but sit back and enjoy the nice day we headed up wind. After a 10 mile upwind leg we had managed to work ourselves back into 3rd around the next mark. I do have to thank Chuck (Taipan 4.9) for rigging his spin wrong and having to stop on the water to restring it, and Dave Ingram (The only one at the skippers meeting to write the course down, and not only that but copy it to post on tape to both side of his front cross bar) for going the wrong way and having to sail back to an offset mark. While we did not have very much close head to head with those guys, after we came out of the hole and they let us go buy, we were able to keep ahead, so I felt the boat speed was pretty good. We easily made ground up wind on the rest of the fleet, and am learning a lot about the down wind on a 16 foot with spin. It kept feeling better as the day progressed. I need a few more to really get in groove with both the boat and how Gina and I are working together.

About a 1/2 mile from the finish, just after we had finally passed the pesky 5.5, the wind abruptly switched to the east. As we had the spin up, we tried to make it the 528 bridge. We almost did, but about 500 yard from it the angle was just too high to keep the spin full, and we had to snuff. The 5.5 squirted out on the reach ahead of us and we lost a little more ground snuffing. We did manage to get the jump on the maximally modified 5.2 sailed by Frank in that little wind change, as he had been dogging us all the way downwind. Each time it lulled a little, he would pull ahead. Each time we could sit on the same side of the boat, we would move buy him. After the 528 bridge it was a short run to the beach. We put the spin back up and almost manage to catch the 5.5, but ended up 3rd to the beach behind the I20 and the 5.5.

After many revisions to the scoring, I believe we correct out to 2nd.
My compliments again ti Phills hull design, as we really like this boat. Until I can get some more time to work out my loose nut behind the tiller issues and some more head to head competition, I am just guessing on my rigging settings. It feels fast, but I am sure there is a lot more there to be found.

Great to know Matt, but how about you get some real competition and finish my boat, then we can battle it out head to head! Boat for boat!

I think someone is chicken and holding my boat up!!

Robi...you don't want to say that to the guy who is building your boat, it might come out a little heavy! Also, now he will NEVER let you in at the mark, don't even ask!!

Let's see Tim. The only other boat like it and you think for a second someone's gonna LET you in at the Mark?
You Fla Guys must be nicer than us. RRS say give way if you have to, according to the rest of the rules. I keep reading them they keep crossreferencing themselves to throw me off track. Doesn't mention anything anything in there about giving away a bullet just to be polite.
Oh Wait a minute, I found it. Apendix 12 Section 2e, subparagraph 19: "Nice Guys finish last."

Cary
When ya gonna buy a boat,TB?

When? When I win the lottery!

15 years I lived in S.Fla, only one minor Hurricane, when I finally left Daytona the Everglades caught fire for the next 5 years. Glad I missed all that natural disaster stuff.
Guess you must still be patching the roof. Think you need to sell one of the horses so you can get back to the important things of life.
Just put all those hayburners on a diet, all the money you save on Hay ought to pay for a good boat. Friend of mine just bought a decent I-20 for 6K, and it was not tired like the DLW, the price is coming down.
(Glad Mrs. B doesn't read the Forum, I'd be in the doghouse from here)
CARY

Yes, the hurricanes did some expensive damage not covered by insurance and the hey burners are costing me over $2,000 a month, roughly the same as my mortgage. Yeah, that would buy me a new boat every 6 months...You want some horses?

OH, the good news is that fuel is up over $50/barrel again and the 5 airlines that are not already in bankruptcy will be by July....so I got that going for me. We will be eating the horses pretty soon!