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F18 North Americans Under Way! #54773
08/08/05 02:16 PM
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The F18 North Americans are under way!!

Follow the action... www.F18NAOnline.com

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Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: BrianK] #54774
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"Do you plan on having Dinosaurs in your Dinosaur Park", Brian ? Is there something I am missing with the ongoing live broadcasting. Your on Race 3 and there is a snippet from 2000yds of race one. Instruction say sign up to recieve the broadcasts, is that when you get the full live show ? Sorry did not quite get it!

Greg Thomas with 3 Bullets!!!!! [Re: BobG] #54775
08/08/05 04:24 PM
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Who will catch him???



Re: Greg Thomas with 3 Bullets!!!!! [Re: Tom Korz] #54776
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Tom was that you in Wellington on Sunday?
Dave

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: BobG] #54777
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"Do you plan on having Dinosaurs in your Dinosaur Park", Brian ? Is there something I am missing with the ongoing live broadcasting. Your on Race 3 and there is a snippet from 2000yds of race one. Instruction say sign up to recieve the broadcasts, is that when you get the full live show ? Sorry did not quite get it!


Im sorry, Im not quite sure what you mean. What do you mean by Im on Race 3?

What instructions say you have so sign up? You should not have to sign up for anything, the site is free to watch, thanks to the sponsors.

As far as full live show we are updating the Blog as often as possible, adding pictures, and editing and loading video as often as we can. Remember, we have to get the tapes from the water, capture them, edit them, compress them for the web, then upload them. It takes time. I hope you weren't expecting to see the boats realtime as they sail around the water. That would be much, much, more more expensive to do.

Right now we are just trying to convince sponsors that catsailing is worth watching, and worth sponsoring, with this event. Do you have any idea how much work went into putting on this level of coverage?

Maybe Im a bit tired, but how do you expect catamaran sailing to get sponsors, to be broadcast, if the catsailors themselves are not behind it? Just a thought.


Re: Greg Thomas with 3 Bullets!!!!! [Re: pitchpoledave] #54778
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That was my Sis and her husband on their new F33


Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: BrianK] #54779
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Wow I must have tricked myself into thinking the revolving headliner that stated LiveWebCast meant at that moment .

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: BobG] #54780
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DYSC,
There is an enormous amount of effort, time and dedication that is going into this event on all levels. It is too bad that you choose to focus negatively to all the hard work being contributed rather then saying ‘good job’ or ‘thanks for the coverage’.
We are so terrible sorry that it’s not meeting your expectations.
Everyone is giving it their all out here. You haven’t a clue as to what level of effort the webcast team is puting into this event or what type of obstacles they had to overcome to even make this possible.
I am truly baffled as to how anyone can say anything negative about what is going on here.
Unlike sitting behind a computer and posting petty comments; there is nothing simple or trivial about the efforts involved in this event.

Tracie Van Houten
Formula 18 North Americans Event Chair
NAF18 Chairman

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54781
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Well I'll say it. Nice job on the website! I can appreciate the work that went into this! I'm enjoying it.

Roger Cochran
CRAM Web Guy


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Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54782
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Tracie, Are you alright? I read you have some swelling but that's all. What happened?

Greg


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Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: bullswan] #54783
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The almost live video and pictures would be even better with full results that included sail numbers or a list of competitors with numbers. I know it's a lot of work to run one of these things and very easy to overlook little things. Good job guys.


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Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: pbisesi] #54784
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The almost live video and pictures would be even better with full results that included sail numbers or a list of competitors with numbers. I know it's a lot of work to run one of these things and very easy to overlook little things. Good job guys.


There was a protest lastnight so the results are bing posted shortly. Sail numbers and all.

Yes, I am alright. Lots of swelling and bruising but nothing is broken. Watch the webcast site for upcoming interview.

Tracie

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54785
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Tracie, the website is great! Compare your site and coverage with the Tornado europeans who is also running just now.

http://www.multihullsweden.com/

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54786
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The Web site looks great. Keep up the good work. I'm on deadline for a story and blowing my day on checking the site every few minutes for new Blog info. I'm such an addict. Hurry and post the complete results to I can get back to work.


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Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54787
08/09/05 12:09 PM
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Tracie and Brian, I should be in the shower getting ready for a 12 hr day at work, but am enjoying your work so much I had to drop a note to say THANKS! The event is such a big undertaking! I've spent my life working and planning other types of events. I think I have some sense of what you've put into this, and it blows me away! Keep up the GREAT WORK! I'd like to go on, because I've done a little video too, and can really apreciate what Brian does but have to go now!

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: Tracie] #54788
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Tracie,
First, I am glad you werent hurt, it looks like it got pretty nasty out there.

Secondly, I agree with DYSC, the website sucks.

The banner says "live broadcast." You are posting short clips of video after the fact, with music played over it. Thats not a live broadcast. Its a commercial.

The whole website is one big ad, with little content. And yeah, we get it, Reynolds is a sponsor.

The "more video" link takes you to adventure TV's website - confusing, it should be labeled "Adventure TV."

The navigation is terrible, confusing and poorly laid out. I especially hate the layout of the blog. The navigation is what prompted me to write this in the first place.

How about posting the results at the end of the day - after the protests are done? Or the next morning. I dont mean a list of the leaders, but the results from each race, for all 38 teams, for each day. You got them, why not post them?

Dont give me the "its alot of work to put on one of these events whine," we can see from the website you got plenty of sponsors, its not like you are putting this thing on by yourself. And not accuse me of being negative, its all about expectations, you set a certain expectation and then didnt meet them. I mean, I was impressed with the "pre-event" interviews , thats a nice idea, but then once the thing gets going, it all grinds to a halt. If you hadnt hyped the coverage so much, we wouldnt be complaining.

Even you response to DYSC mentions "webcast team", you got a team working on this and all that gets posted one sentance blog entries and 30 seconds of video from the day before? Lame.

I'm sure the event is great, thats not what DYSC was complaining about, he was complaining about the website.

Bill

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: bvining] #54789
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Hey Bill,
How's that 18HT super mega high end fleet going?..............Oh Yea, it isn't.

At least the F18 guys have their act together and at the very least are doing some racing.
Take yourself back a few years, this kind of coverage did not exist then. What they and Brian K are doing so far is fantastic. So it's not perfect, it's the first time they have tried it and it will be better the next time, Big Deal, it's something which is better that nothing.
Get a Grip and enjoy what's out there.
CO

Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: bvining] #54790
08/09/05 01:36 PM
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Tracie, I saw the video from this morning's interview! Wow, I hope it doesn't hurt as bad as it looks! Great job on putting the event together and I think it is easy to find everything that is posted! I have no complaints...only compliments!

I AM spending too much time following the action and not enough working...but I can blame no one but myself.


Les Gallagher
Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: sparky] #54791
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Bill and DSYC,

Lighten up guys. What's with all the negative criticism? A little constructive criticism is always good, but why be so aggressive?


Fred F (ex Hobie 18)
Re: F18 North Americans Under Way! [Re: bvining] #54792
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WHAT in the WORLD do you guys have in your butts!? Geeesh...get a life. Yep, there are sponsors but their cash sponsorships are paying R/C boats, fuel, lodging for officials, transportation for some officials, regatta meals, awards...the list goes on and on. I'm really disapointed in the attitudes you guys are showing here. The Adventure.tv guys are busting their tails (it's two / three people!) trying to get all this put together. Have you ever tried to edit a video, get a wireless camera working, get a waterproof camera on a boat and recording without getting it wet or starting the tape to early before the race starts? This is cutting edge stuff and it will only get better. NOBODY has ever provided coverage of a catamaran (or any sailing) regatta even remotely close to what Brian and his crew are doing now...and it is going to get better through the week.


Jake Kohl
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