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Wave - new vs used #55819
08/23/05 02:23 PM
08/23/05 02:23 PM
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Gumps Offline OP
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I have a cabin on Lake Michigan in New Buffalo, Mi and recently went for a ride on a friend's Wave and fell in love (with the boat). I am relatively new to sailing and am looking to pick up a Wave for myself. My dilema is whether to go used or new. I would appreciate any input regarding pros & cons of used Waves. Specifically what should a novice sailor look for or watch out for in a used Wave? Are there noteworthy features available on new or newer models that might make a used Wave less desirable? How long have Waves been around and have there been material changes in recent year's models? What is a reasonable price range for used Waves? Are there any resources local to my area that would be a good source for used Waves? Any & all input welcome, Go Bears!


Gumps
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Re: Wave - new vs used [Re: Gumps] #55820
08/23/05 09:12 PM
08/23/05 09:12 PM
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Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
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First off, everyone that has a Wave loves it.., so forget the used market. Not much out there. Like pulling teeth to get one.
If you do find one, there is not much that go wrong.
Rick


Rick White
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Re: Wave - new vs used [Re: Gumps] #55821
08/24/05 08:41 AM
08/24/05 08:41 AM
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Long Beach, California
John Williams Offline
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Long Beach, California
I'm sure Matt Miller can get more specific than I can, but here's some of the general stuff I've heard, and some of it may be bunk:

The Wave showed up around '94 or '95 - they were turned twice on the rotomolder in the first couple of years of production, so early boats are lighter than newer boats, which are turned three times. There are a few different factory trampolines out there - some have drink holders, but the mesh didn't seem to hold up well, resulting in just four holes in the tramp with no "holder" for the drink. Latest tramps are three-piece lace-up. There are many different factory sails out there - predominantly Dacron, but some monofilm and some Mylar exist, some with specific branding on them like Coke or Sunkist. Factory sail sizes and cuts are somewhat variable, since they never imagined it would become a racing class.

New boats have a new rudder kick-up and crossbar arrangement that has been met with mixed reviews from owners. The blades are the same - just the castings, arms and crossbar have changed.

Newer boats have the flying "H" integrated on the Bob at the top of the mast, rather than a sticker - this holds up MUCH better.

Some used boats you might find have various accessory items like the backrests, jib kit, tiller extension, etc. These are add-ons. Features and accessories are listed on the Hobie Cat website.

My opinion is that any old Wave can be brought back to life for a pretty reasonable cost, as they are simple boats. As long as the plastic hulls are ok, anything else can be repaired or replaced. Holes, splits, creases or cuts in hulls are theoretically repairable, but not from any practical standpoint. Pass on the boat if the hulls aren't sound. On a rental boat or a boat that has been sitting for some time, expect to have to replace the standing and running rigging, which is very limited and not a big deal at all. Also expect to replace the rudder cams and springs - again, not a big deal.

If you are looking to get involved with other Wave owners, there are two choices for class associations - the International Wave Class Association, and the Hobie Class Association of North America. The IWCA is an owner-controled association with an active annual Wave regatta schedule, points system and a championship. The IWCA maintains a set of rules intended to keep boat performance and cost consistent. The HCA has written a different set of rules for the Wave which include minimum boat and crew weights, but there is little support for the class within the organization and it is generally viewed as a "toy" boat - no Wave owners are represented on the board. I belong to both organizations.

There are a couple of Wave-owner forums: one is right here on Catsailor, and the other is factory supported.

Everyone I know that owns one has been very happy with their purchase - let us know what you get, and have fun.


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Wave - new vs used [Re: Gumps] #55822
08/26/05 11:18 AM
08/26/05 11:18 AM
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Simi Valley, CA
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Simi Valley, CA
Grumps, I didn't take the time to look at a map to see how far away this might be, but I thought you might like to see it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998...mQQcategoryZ63729QQitemZ4570352266QQrdZ1

Good luck
Josh


Josh Fint Prindle 19 "Accident Prone" Moro Bay Sailing

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