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#59746 10/25/05 06:38 PM 10/25/05 06:38 PM |
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan PTP
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | you could always put some non-toxic antifreeze in it (polyethylene glycol). It is the non-toxic cousin to ethylene glycol (very dangerous stuff). Only question is... what could it do to the inside of the fiberglass. When I take my cat up to mich in a couple years I plan on putting that stuff in the hulls.
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#59750 10/25/05 07:59 PM 10/25/05 07:59 PM |
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | How about while you are sitting in the warmth of your house doing your best "girl drink drunk" impression, you could get some of those little maitai drink umbrellas and stick one over each inspection port hole. Actually, I had the concern of water getting into my hulls here in Florida (doesn't freeze). I considered gluing some frisbees to a 9" piece of 2X4 to stick in each hole. That would keep the water out, but let it breathe too. Or better yet... you could turn the boat over and set it on some boards across the beams. -Rob V. Glad to be in Panama City Nacra 5.2 Rob V.
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#59751 10/25/05 09:42 PM 10/25/05 09:42 PM |
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Posts: 2,074 Northfield,NH USA | I know this one...... I know this one.........
How about if you wax your hulls? A big clump of wax will give you something to stick the little umbrella in. Also, I read somewhere it makes you faster too.....
The catsailor store sells nice waterproof covers for like $ 200. Form fitting. If I didn't have a barn to put it away in for the winter I'd buy one of those or store it upside down on the trailer.
Greg
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#59752 10/25/05 11:56 PM 10/25/05 11:56 PM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | Greg, Really wax?? Thanks for the tip!
Another good way to vetilate your hulls is to get a couple extra port covers, go get some pvc fittings. 1 1/2" works good.
The idea is to drill a hole in the cover then glue a short piece of tubing to that, then a couple of 90 degree elbows on that. You wind up with a couple of covers with 1 1/2" holes facing down so nothing can get in but air. Works good for around here to let the hulls dry while keeping the rain out.
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#59753 10/26/05 01:09 AM 10/26/05 01:09 AM |
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Posts: 13 Denver Colorado | I live in Denver, Colo., land of sunshine and low humidity. So I was surprised the other day, when I checked my hulls, and found an inch of water setting in the bottom. There has been no rain or snow since I covered the whole boat with a brand new tarp, so where did the water come from. The boat has not been on the water since '97.
The word is condensation, and the only solution is ventilation!
So I pulled the hull port covers, and a few days later, the hulls are apparently dry again. No dumping, or setting the boat on end.
I don't know what the condensation issues are in other parts of the country, but I expect that if you have humidity and cold hull surfaces, you are getting condensation. Condensation leads to delamination, so you need to get it dried out. The foam holds a lot of water, and even when you dump the water, there is still plenty in there to do damage. When I first cut the ports, there was definitely the smell of humidity in the hulls,
I have even wondered about putting a small fan blowing air into the hull port. That way the hull would be good and dry come next Spring. TnT | | | Re: Winter storage - risks of water freezing in hulls
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#59758 10/26/05 08:35 PM 10/26/05 08:35 PM |
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Posts: 192 WEST. MICH. USA | Matt & Catman have it right. Everywhere there is condensation, sunshine or rain, ventlate. Ventlating the hulls makes sence year round. Many sailors will crack the hull covers when they get on the beach to reduce pressures from the heated air in the hull. I've seen big boat sailors shrink wrap their boat in the fall and not have openings for ventilation. In the spring they have many gallons of water in the bilge. Those that ventilate have no water or mold problems. The PVC in a extra port cover is a good idea. | | | Re: Winter storage - risks of water freezing in hulls
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#59759 10/26/05 08:36 PM 10/26/05 08:36 PM |
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | I haven't had the wasp problem yet, though I am always looking for a nest. I know it is coming. My only problem parking at Bonita Bay is the spiders. They are everywhere. If I look down my main beam, it looks like a scheen from Alien or something. Egg sacks everywhere. They are just the little brown spiders so they are pretty harmless. It becomes real entertaining when my female co-worker gets onboard. She has arachnaphobia bigtime. -Rob V. Panama City Nacra 5.2 Rob V.
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#59760 10/27/05 05:49 AM 10/27/05 05:49 AM |
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Posts: 2,074 Northfield,NH USA | How would one of those solar-powered fans work? They are pretty cheap and durable as heck. Wouldn't it be best if you had access ports in both aft and bow however?
My problem is mice. I'm worried that they will chew holes in the tramp so I plan on dropping moth balls everywhere. Unless someone thinks of something better?
Greg
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